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Author Topic: KAPPA ROLL BAR FABRICATION/INSTALL  (Read 25000 times)

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Offline elff

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Re: KAPPA ROLL BAR FABRICATION/INSTALL
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2014, 12:27:04 PM »
Yup
Otherwise it could punch through the surface

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Re: KAPPA ROLL BAR FABRICATION/INSTALL
« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2014, 12:29:49 PM »
yup, which is exactly what I was trying to say.

imo, welding is better. its supported by a f ull bead and not a few grade 8 bolts.

I really do believe my design will pass MOST track day regulations but it's always up to the inspector, as its his but that's on the line.

I do know that mine has been approved for all the events I want to run in.

anyone who wants to do a bar should talk to their tech inspector prior.

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Re: KAPPA ROLL BAR FABRICATION/INSTALL
« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2014, 12:56:00 PM »
Actually, you only need grade 5 bolts for mounting, IIRC!
The race car I still own has everything solidly welded directly to the frame.  One that I built in years past was an early TVR Grantura, which had a tubing frame with tubing lighter than current exhaust pipe tubing, and a fiberglass body that was simply bonded onto the frame tubes.  Of course they rotted inside the places where the fiberglass wrapped around them.  First I had to cut the body off the frame, then rebuild the bad bits of chassis, and then figure out a way to put the body back on as well as attach a roll bar to such lightweight tubing.  I ended up solving both problems by welding triangular plates across the corners of the frame and sandwiching the new floor sections I'd created out of fiberglass (I itched for weeks) between the roll bar and the chassis plates.  Great little car - weighed 1700 lbs.  I'd love to still have it - it would make an unequalled (well, except for an Atom) platform for an LNF drive train!



Most challenging cars I was ever involved with from the point of view of roll bar/cage creation was a Lotus Elite (1960s, not the later car of the same name) which bolted suspension sub frames to a monocoque made completely out of fiberglass (they tended to tear out of the body as the cars got older), and an early Marcos, which ran a Ford 1600 motor and had a chassis made out of plywood!
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe
1958 MGA Twincam (race car)
1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe
1957 Jamaican bodied MGA
1971 Jensen Interceptor
2007 BMW Z4M coupe
Recently sold:
1969 MGC roadster,
1965 Jensen CV8,
1969 Lamborghini Islero S
1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
Bill in BC

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Re: KAPPA ROLL BAR FABRICATION/INSTALL
« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2014, 01:13:10 PM »
damnit, I wish I lived in those days. You guys had all the cool cars :(

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Re: KAPPA ROLL BAR FABRICATION/INSTALL
« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2014, 01:24:56 PM »
damnit, I wish I lived in those days. You guys had all the cool cars :(

We still do and we are still racing them! And they go faster than they ever did back in the day, partly due to better technology and partly due to (ahem) engine expansion - there are very few early Porsche 911s running 2.0 engine and some have gone as high as 2.7, until the organizers decide to chastise them, and I always ended up running against 1300 cc Alfas that had engines as large as 2,000 in them.  But there are no trophies, it is all for fun, so no one cares all that much.

This is my race engine - you can probably tell why I like the LNF Ecotec more than some thumping V8.....

2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe
1958 MGA Twincam (race car)
1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe
1957 Jamaican bodied MGA
1971 Jensen Interceptor
2007 BMW Z4M coupe
Recently sold:
1969 MGC roadster,
1965 Jensen CV8,
1969 Lamborghini Islero S
1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
Bill in BC

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Re: KAPPA ROLL BAR FABRICATION/INSTALL
« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2014, 02:10:58 PM »
lololol. I love vintage stuff, heritage and nostalgia drive passion more than anything!! I want an old 964 BADLY someday...

 

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