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Offline roxer

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Water pump replacement
« on: December 02, 2014, 09:13:49 PM »
So I noticed my coolant level a little lower than mid bowl three days ago. I've read several of the posts here and elsewhere about water pump failures. So I topped it off a little while ago and will monitor it. No coolant visible, but then...

I noticed several comments on the pumps folks were using, but I want to know specifically about the Bosch 97220. This any worse than the GM version? I have used many Bosch parts in the past and they have always been quality parts. Not to mention its a little cheaper too.  Comments?

What other parts are needed for the replacement? I saw an OTC 6616 water pump holding tool. Anything else? Gaskets maybe? Provided this pump is good to go, I may snag it and have Dave install it for me. I want everything I need just in case it won't make it there.
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 10:36:48 PM »
Only other thing other than the holding tool and the pump you might need is the gasket if the pump doesn't come with it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027XYIEM/?tag=viglink21382-20

I would change the thermostat as well while I have everything open but only use the OEM part.
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 11:08:16 PM »
No one knows about whether the Bosch is better or not, but from a thread on the BB, it doesn't come with all the same parts!

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f12/waterpump-blew-103778/index2.html#post1538474
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 11:15:05 PM »
I used the $45 amazon part on the coupe.  No problems.

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 08:49:48 AM »
Only other thing other than the holding tool and the pump you might need is the gasket if the pump doesn't come with it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027XYIEM/?tag=viglink21382-20

I would change the thermostat as well while I have everything open but only use the OEM part.

Got a part number for the GM thermostat?


I used the $45 amazon part on the coupe.  No problems.

Did it come with a gasket to mate it to the water pump back half?  From TS's post it seems you have to use the other half of the pump housing.  Is that correct?  Is it necessary to remove the car hood to do the change?
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 09:15:12 AM »
This thermostat?

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/Ecotec-Thermostat-12622410-P10870.aspx

If so - wow, that's almost as much as the pump!  :nuts:

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 12:59:41 PM »
Yeah that's a crazy price for a thermostat a but as many here will attest, if you use another you'll be changing it again.

http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,9551.msg158380.html#msg158380
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 01:02:55 PM »
Now you gave me ideas, I have a spare new pump won at the meeting raffles  :devil:
Should I replace it when the engine is rebuild? Should I do thermostat also?
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2014, 01:34:26 PM »
Make sure you drill a SMALL hole in the t-stat prior to installing. Search for more details, but it makes a huge difference when trying to remove air bubbles.
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2014, 02:09:12 PM »
Now you gave me ideas, I have a spare new pump won at the meeting raffles  :devil:
Should I replace it when the engine is rebuild? Should I do thermostat also?
Smart to do both :)

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2014, 09:22:49 AM »
Now you gave me ideas, I have a spare new pump won at the meeting raffles  :devil:
Should I replace it when the engine is rebuild? Should I do thermostat also?

We always replace the water pump and thermostat when doing the engine builds, just a good idea while you have the engine out anyway.
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2014, 12:20:14 PM »
Thank you I will do them both ;)
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2014, 02:13:48 PM »
So I snagged the Bosch pump (97220), Fel-pro gasket and GM thermostat (12622410) from Amazon.  I'll take it with me to see Dave when he looks at my whistling problem. Hopefully I don't dump on my way to see him.  That would suck.   :cloud:
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2014, 05:59:54 PM »
So I snagged the Bosch pump (97220), Fel-pro gasket and GM thermostat (12622410) from Amazon.  I'll take it with me to see Dave when he looks at my whistling problem. Hopefully I don't dump on my way to see him.  That would suck.   :cloud:

If it does, we have a trailer and can come pick you up :)
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2014, 12:31:33 AM »
If it does, we have a trailer and can come pick you up :)

Thanks Dave.  I would hate to have to Fred Flintstone it all the way to Powdersville.   :tool:
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2015, 04:52:28 PM »
I'm not a DIYer, and my water pump is going out.  Anyone have a mechanic recommendation for the San Diego area?  Preferably north county?

Thanks!

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2015, 05:02:33 PM »
Just trying to do my part...

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2015, 05:05:34 PM »
Thanks Sly, I PM'ed him!

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2015, 09:02:25 PM »
 :D

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2015, 12:13:37 AM »
I got your PM. I'll reply. I am by no means a professional mechanic. I've only done a water pump once or twice  and it was with the good doctor doing most of the effort. My work would come with zero warranty or guarantee of any type and may lead to catastrophic engine failure.

Just thought I'd put that out there.

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2015, 04:11:28 AM »
Also he does a pretty good brakes job, Shiny is still alive, right?  :D
Especially don't go with him in the first test drive after brake job, when brakes are barely working and you have push them hard in order to start working. Don't ask me how I know.
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2015, 08:16:26 AM »
You are still alive :)
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2015, 11:14:56 AM »
GJ you need to update your warranty to what my friend used to say.
The minute the vehicle leaves your yard, the warranty has expired
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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2015, 11:49:01 AM »
Sorry Steven, couldn't help myself...    :devil:

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Re: Water pump replacement
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2015, 11:53:28 AM »
That was hilarious Bob

I didn't want to give away the joke but you had me laughing my ass off

 

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