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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2015, 12:07:07 AM »
:yay: Now we can see both your seats better at the same time......   :D


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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2015, 12:10:12 AM »
I like the look. Nice work.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2015, 08:06:22 AM »
Loosen the OEM seats by using a 15MM wrench and/ or socket to remove 4 nuts per seat that fasten the seats to the floorboard. A T50 torx bit is needed to remove the seat belt from the OEM seat bracket. Disconnect the wire harness (1 per seat) and remove the seat from the car.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2015, 08:21:43 AM »
All that was needed from the OEM seat was the four "hold down" brackets. I used 3 drill bits (started with a 1/8") to step up to the size necessary to drill out the steel rivets (8 per seat). Also need to retain the wire harnesses from both seats to retain the seat belt "buckled" function. Driver's side will lose height adjustment function and passenger side will lose the passenger detection sensor array/ module.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2015, 08:30:17 AM »
The assembly instructions for the Cipher seats were vague and the pictures and illustrations were too dark to tell how to assemble them. However, I was able to figure it out in short order. If someone buys these seats and needs clarification I can help. Unfortunately, I didn't take any pics of seat assembly other than of how I attached the Cipher slider rails. I attached them using the supplied black oxide socket head cap screws and spacers (4 EA per seat).
Passenger side seat shown below.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2015, 08:52:39 AM »
I then attached the four hold down brackets retained from the OEM seat onto the Ciper sliders using 4 EA GR8 1/4-20 bolts, flats, locks, and nuts. I will probably upgrade this hardware to 3/8" for a little more robust attachment hardware. I measured the studs (center to center) that were in the floorboard of the car to get the proper spacing necessary for the hold down brackets to be set at. Driver side seat shown below.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2015, 09:12:51 AM »
My next issue was figuring out how to attach the seat belts back into the car. A quick trip to Lowes to find some angle iron did the trick. I ended up buying a 3' length of 14GA 2-1/4" x 1-1/2" angle. and cutting 2 brackets (4.75"L) per seat based on the OEM bracket removed from the driver seat. I used a uni-bit to widen the holes for the floor stud to pass through and the seat belt attachment hardware. Brackets for passenger side shown below.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2015, 09:18:52 AM »
From there it was a simple matter of putting everything back together. I re-installed both wire harnesses and coiled any excess underneath. I attached the seat belt buckle and receiver to the 4.75"L brackets using GR8 3/8-16 bolts, flats, locks, and nuts and angled them into position. I set the completed assemblies onto the rear mounting studs. I'll have to go back and paint the brackets later. I may also get thicker gauge angle iron and drill out the 2 holes needed instead of using what I did on this initial install. Passenger side shown below.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2015, 09:31:11 AM »
Then, I set the seats in and fastened them back down with OEM nuts and a 15MM wrench/ socket. Additional pictures of passenger side below to show clearances.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2015, 09:36:03 AM »
The seats fit well and rub the door and center subwoofer enclosure just a little bit. One other thing I noticed was that the seat will not be able to slide forward past where the seat back recline handle is located because the OEM door sill assembly is in the way. I'm 5'7" and it just makes it to the position I need it to be set at.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2015, 09:42:44 AM »
Again, I cannot express how pleased I am with the quality of the seats considering their price point and how well they ended up fitting in the car. 
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2015, 11:40:16 AM »
They look like they belong with the center speaker pulling everything together
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2015, 06:27:02 PM »
Do these seats sit lower than OEM seats? I'm looking for a way to gain some headroom.

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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2015, 06:56:54 PM »
Do these seats sit lower than OEM seats? I'm looking for a way to gain some headroom.

I didn't take a height measurement of the OEM. It does seem to sit a tad lower, but I'm not sure how much. 1 - 2" maybe? If you can measure the OEM seat height, I'll measure my seat height and we can get a better idea.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2015, 07:07:45 PM »
Crap
I really liked this install until you said it lowered them.
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Looks amazing.  New seats are on my project list for sure

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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2015, 07:33:18 PM »
Crap
I really liked this install until you said it lowered them.
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Looks amazing.  New seats are on my project list for sure

Thanks, elff. You could always add spacers.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2015, 08:05:04 PM »
4x4 blocks of wood will help you Elff
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2015, 08:18:48 PM »
4x4 blocks of wood will help you Elff

Or 2 phone books.
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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2015, 09:03:17 PM »
Damn It I am not that short.......fawk, I guess I am

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Re: Cipher Auto seat install
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2015, 10:58:10 AM »
very nice. i used the factory sliders for my Bride seats as well and love it...sit super low. brackets to mount the seats to the sliders were very easy.

 

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