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Author Topic: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger  (Read 228616 times)

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #175 on: October 04, 2018, 08:02:06 PM »
That's Manny
Met him at Joe's numerous times and he took Kelu to the dragstrip during one of the mod meet weekends.

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #176 on: October 04, 2018, 08:45:24 PM »
That must have been after I got rid of my Kappa, my last mod meet was Kelu's first. Didn't know Kelu made passes at MIR.

Where is Kelu anyway?

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #177 on: October 08, 2018, 09:05:20 AM »
As far as the Dorman and "Propshaft Mechaniks" CV, they both use a smaller ball bearing at ~0.686" (11/16"?) where the OEM is 0.748" (19mm?).   The shiny bigger balls are 3/4" new ones I picked up to see if I can upgrade the OEM ones. I have installed the propershaft mechaniks value CV for the dyno pulls, if it survives that then it's an okay replacement for a stock ride.




Dorman gasket annihilated (did that anaerobic sealer kill it though?):




OEM has more beef:


*notice the wear on the oem and dorman too a little
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #178 on: October 08, 2018, 08:22:00 PM »
I'd be curious to see if your driveshaft woes went away if you installed OEM Engine mounts. 

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #179 on: October 10, 2018, 12:25:39 PM »
I'd be curious to see if your driveshaft woes went away if you installed OEM Engine mounts.

The ebay special shaft has survived the dyno pulls, multiple 400 ftlb pulls.  I changed a street driving habit; I stopped downshifting and engine braking.  As I get some more miles we will see.   There is talk of going back to the strip (cooler temps) so I may do that and see how what happens to the CV.  As far as going back to OEM, it is an option...I'd like a torque arm if I do that though.
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #180 on: October 10, 2018, 12:33:43 PM »
Dyno Results In

Max achieved independently: 444 whp and 422 wtq



Red: 15 psi
Blue: 18 psi
Green: 21 psi
Orange: 25 psi
Black: max HP pull is 15 psi then at 5k the dyno operator put it into scramble 25 psi


Previous best at 18 psi on the stock LE5, same hot side (manifold, turbo, exhaust) 317 whp / 329 wtq here: https://imgur.com/a/Dcrz8

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #181 on: October 10, 2018, 12:50:01 PM »
Steelmesh,  here is the perfect article that talks about what I mentioned to you in my dragstrip thread.  They use a clutched supercharger for their setup...

Check it out!

http://dsportmag.com/the-cars/supercharged-turbocharged-subaru-wrx-sti/

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #182 on: October 10, 2018, 05:58:23 PM »
I was wondering why there was that weird jump at 5k, then I read your description.   
I think your Orange setup is the one to run
Great TQ vs HP graph.

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #183 on: October 10, 2018, 08:10:33 PM »
This is the orange pull:



Dynojet 525 bhp estimate = 444 whp / 84.5%.

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #184 on: October 16, 2018, 08:37:19 PM »
Looked at some of the 60p shots and noticed a little racecar come out the pipes sequentially:





435whp/422wtq pull different angle:
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2018, 12:11:28 PM »
Definitely amazing!  Great work!

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #186 on: October 19, 2018, 03:43:17 PM »
Definitely amazing!  Great work!

Thanks!  I am about half-way done too I hope it keeps getting better =)
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #187 on: October 28, 2018, 08:04:02 PM »
Last Tuesday I took the car out to see how it was in cold weather before going to test & tune.  I hit 28 psi, where my max at the 78F track was 24-25.  Gain is set pretty low on the GFB boost controller, it should be targeting 25 psi; so maybe running out of wastegate harder to control pressure.

That is when I lost a ZZP ignition coil and the timing tensioner at the same time I think. It started actual misfiring and not running good and there was a constant rattle noise, from the valve cover not lifters for sure. I pulled injector plugs 1-by-1 until the idle didn't change, lost #4. I pulled the valve cover and found the chain was loose, drooping.  The guides up top seemed okay from what I could tell, so I pulled the tensioner and found it came apart. Also the C-clip is MIA inside the engine somewhere; cross-fingers it fell into the pan all the way, not waiting to get sucked into a chain.  Will be probing with a magnetic tool you never know.  I contacted ZZP and on the same day they replied implying more coils will be in stock in about a month and I will be taken care of.



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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #188 on: October 28, 2018, 08:33:43 PM »
Wow
Ouch!!

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2018, 12:40:08 PM »
Crap!!  That really sucks!  Hopefully everything works out for you!

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #190 on: November 02, 2018, 06:32:51 PM »
Crap!!  That really sucks!  Hopefully everything works out for you!
Yeah, what he said. ^^  Hope ya' don't find TOO much wrong eh!
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #191 on: November 04, 2018, 10:13:25 AM »
AC Delco tensioner is in, no more rattle noise  :yay:

I don't think I will make it to the track for a record breaking run, it's forecasted to be cloudy, breezy 45F.  With that I've cleaned out the garage and pulled the car in; I look forward to doing the work during [not summer] so I can enjoy it during summer this time.  I'm glad I ripped on the car with the turbo to find weaknesses/issues: like the fuel system, intercooler sucks, rear end mods, driveshaft woes, tensioner failure, and on a better note proving out custom modifications are passing.
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #192 on: November 08, 2018, 12:52:49 AM »
AC Delco tensioner is in, no more rattle noise  :yay:

I don't think I will make it to the track for a record breaking run, it's forecasted to be cloudy, breezy 45F.  With that I've cleaned out the garage and pulled the car in; I look forward to doing the work during [not summer] so I can enjoy it during summer this time.  I'm glad I ripped on the car with the turbo to find weaknesses/issues: like the fuel system, intercooler sucks, rear end mods, driveshaft woes, tensioner failure, and on a better note proving out custom modifications are passing.
did you secure the chain at the cams at all?

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #193 on: November 08, 2018, 12:11:42 PM »
did you secure the chain at the cams at all?

If you're referring to servicing this: I put the crank at TDC Cyl 1 comp stroke, then paint marked the chain links at each of the Cam Gear timing marks just in case it skipped while servicing.
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #194 on: November 14, 2018, 08:37:27 PM »
The fleabay-steal carboned and sludged LSJ intake was taken to a shop to clean out, considering it's freezing and dark out most of my days this will be worth the monetary investment.  The intake was actually not bad at all since it came with the ZZP dual pass upgrade!  The laminova cores were removed with a hose clamp, good tip from the other forums.  I degreased and US cleaned the cores, not bad but a little brown.   



*note the proposed cutoff location on the M62 SC body =)

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #195 on: January 03, 2019, 04:49:50 PM »
Christmas Break fun.  Didn't put in a lot of time on this particular project, but I did put some deal breakers to rest by mocking it up.  The lsj intake manifold cleaning job I commissioned turned out great too.   I chopped the SC housing using a 4.5" grinder with cutoff wheel.






I was able to re-route that wiring harness to the lower side of the SC, just need to extend the windshield washer connector if this is the final plan.




Clearance check with hood fully closed, that is a 3" donut tube and is not touching the hood right there.  Plan is to run the pipe over the SC hugging it, above the "driverside" SC rotor so some good clearance there.




Throttle body mock location:





2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI lol without ring seal, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #196 on: January 08, 2019, 01:39:20 PM »
Very nice!

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #197 on: January 09, 2019, 03:24:18 PM »
Very nice!

ALnut cut in half (like a donut but aluminum), you can't bend 3" tube that tight so why you would go with this:


I mocked it up in the car with the hood shut, clearance looking great:


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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #198 on: January 13, 2019, 07:04:54 PM »
Nice to see things coming along.Love these DIY solutions.
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #199 on: January 18, 2019, 01:42:21 PM »
This car is DEFINITELY going to scream!!! I can't wait until you get it done!

 

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