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Author Topic: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger  (Read 163556 times)

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Offline Steelmesh

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #575 on: June 16, 2025, 10:06:39 AM »
Focused on some progress this weekend, bypass pretty much done and TB mount made.  Throttle body harness built.  Don't have any free analog inputs in the EMU black ecu to monitor the throttle position, however this ecu is expandable with CANbus analog inputs; so I'm going to look into making a basic analog-to-CAN device to bring in more analog signals like the throttle position and whatever else I want 0-5V.  Otherwise, parts ordered or about to be ordered for upgrading all the cooling hoses and oil cooler lines. 





2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI lol without ring seal, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #576 on: June 16, 2025, 01:26:16 PM »
work looks great
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #577 on: June 28, 2025, 04:03:17 PM »
Good job.

Given it isn't a critical DBW input, just using a single track on the unit would be fine for position, instead of the typical dual track needed for safety on DBW

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #578 on: June 28, 2025, 04:07:59 PM »
I agree with Critterman, the work looks great!
Just trying to do my part...

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #579 on: June 30, 2025, 04:17:29 PM »
Thanks guys!   :D


More updates, I have a check list of stuff to do, to help direct me because I go crossed eyed in the face of this haha



I'm taking the risk to run without the IC cores in the LSJ intake, I designed and commissioned a block off plate, made 2 because the cost of 1 was nearly the cost of 2. It will certainly reduce any pressure drop across the laminov cores since they're not there. Going to lean on water / methanol injection to help with cooling the charge here in-lieu of the heat exchanger.







New water methanol pump.  It didn't start up this season, eventually kicked on though.  Since I'm going to be leaning on water / methanol (water only on track), I have to replace the pump to ensure reliability.



Cooling system hoses upgrades, I priced out building the 'ultimate' lower rad hose out of silicone with the Tee and bends, would be around $300 so sticking with the $150 continental lower rad hose.  New DDM upper rad hose, next to the 15 year old Werks hose (which is thicker). 



DDM small bleeder hose kit also, nice molded like OEM, and price is good compared to trying to build your own with time saved.



My method to refresh OEM clamps, coat them with zinc spray, cold galvanizing





All lined clamps from Zoro (ideal brand) found a use for the 20% off coupons, lined for silicone hoses.  A bag of pinch clamps too for more permanent heater hose connections.



So many choices, I just went with all Redhorse PTFE 10 AN, decision tipped because they make hose ends in the natural finish and matches the stainless braid better, idk sounded good at the time.



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Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #580 on: July 01, 2025, 11:33:41 AM »
I was lost at the first picture, how are ou ever going to keep everything strait?
GONE: (but not forgotten) 2006 Cool named BIXABEL (BISH-AH-BEL) Mayan for "Good Roads"

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StageIII intercooled Supercharger, Wisco ceramic coated pistons, Carrillo rods, superTech valves and Springs
Ported and polished head
Exedy Stage II Clutch
big brake kit, slotted/drilled Rotors w/Porterfield pads & blue juice
Backbone, Probeam, Cross Strut Brace
Underhood, trunk, & door Lights
ZOK suspension

JPM
Center console, door inserts, & dash
Seat bolster & lumbar support

Focuztech Tri-Y Header & hi-flow cat
Solo Performance SQR-2
Norm's Rear facia
Heated Seats
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #581 on: July 01, 2025, 12:59:44 PM »
I was lost at the first picture, how are ou ever going to keep everything strait?

Some luck, a little skill, worst case a reduction of F's given
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #582 on: July 01, 2025, 01:09:08 PM »
Noticed oil seeping around the front of the rocker cover, replacing the gaskets I noticed a potential root cause of the leak: broken spacers missing the washer portion to push on the rubbers to hold the cover on. 

These are $6-12 a piece to replace!!  Then I designed that spacer detail in CAD and started looking at online quotes, like 100 pieces or something because it seems like other people are seeing what I'm seeing.  Bad idea, $16-20 per piece at 100 pcs.  Then I went to rockauto.com, and they have them for $4 something, so the order is in for a new set.


Look at that trash metal they used what is that?  Stamped / formed steel can be that brittle?!


2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI lol without ring seal, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

2013 Cruze Missile, tuned, 42 lb, ZZP SRI/FMIC/DP/MP/CB, Kappadapt trans mount

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #583 on: July 01, 2025, 01:15:36 PM »
I'm going with cast, look at the grain structure in the close up pic.
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #584 on: July 02, 2025, 04:00:43 PM »
I'm going with cast, look at the grain structure in the close up pic.

I think I was thinking initially the radial cracks were from the stamping process (stretch marks), yeah makes more sense it would be cast or maybe even sintered? 
2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI lol without ring seal, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

2013 Cruze Missile, tuned, 42 lb, ZZP SRI/FMIC/DP/MP/CB, Kappadapt trans mount

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #585 on: July 02, 2025, 09:08:33 PM »
Could be that too.  Either way not a strong part.
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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #586 on: July 06, 2025, 04:38:40 AM »
Looks like someone has tigthened the shit out of them. They're only M6, a light nip up is all that's needed

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #587 on: July 09, 2025, 11:53:30 AM »
Looks like someone has tigthened the shit out of them. They're only M6, a light nip up is all that's needed

They've certainly been removed a lot and you're right, 89 inlbs isn't much so my elbow might be miscalibrated and contributed to their demise.
2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI lol without ring seal, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #588 on: July 10, 2025, 12:44:39 PM »
Don't want to forget the power steering plumbing, status: completed; new OEM pressure hose and then all custom return, cooler, reservoir.  I was using the stock reservoir however it was laying on it's side rigged into place.  I found this dorman reservoir and made it work, comes with a bracket that I used to mount it off a hard point.  https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-Solutions-603-678-Steering-Reservoir/dp/B07DWG27WF

FYI, base model Solstice with a turbo kit needs to relocate the power steering reservoir.

Push Lock -6AN return hose warmed in hot water fit over the nipple, and then used 5/8" silicone heater hose for the pump feed (old hose was silicone and lasted over 10 years).


At the power steering rack.  I used a power steering to AN adapter, the return hose there is the M16 sized one.  They look like these however I purchased name brand ones thinking it's better: https://www.amazon.com/Straight-Steering-Fittings-Cadillac-Fittings/dp/B0D1MW794Z


7-plate cooler, Summit Racing brand.  Needed to use 8AN to 6AN push lock hose ends, the majority of these automotive aftermarket plate coolers are -8AN or -10AN



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I ran into issues with the Redhorse Racing PTFE hose and hose ends, sent it all back!!!  I think my style of project management is to acquire 95% of the things I need (for a sub-system at least), then when the time comes, dump all my focus into the project to finish it or hit a worthy milestone.  So defective parts is very painful because I'm so focused on making progress in the moment, anything that stops me that wasn't my fault causes extreme mental discomfort.

1) One fitting was oversized and would not go into the hose/olive. Using calipers I measured about 0.624" on the fittings that work, and 0.631" on that defective fitting that I even sanded a lead chamfer on which just hits a wall, and kinked the end of my hose pushing so hard.
2) On the last hose I was building up, I noticed damage in the stainless braid, come to find the hose was kinked there clearly not a smooth curve, it was a curve to a point to a curve stepping back and looking at it.  I added a little pressure and you can feel the less spring back force over that area.  In my mental discomfort, I put the kinked part on the ground and stomp smashed it into the concrete, because the Angel and Devil on my shoulder were arguing if I should run the hose or not, however one side said No Flipping Way and to 100% make sure I don't use it, something compelled me to smash the hose kinked into oblivion to finalize the decision.  That happened within a split second in my mind.  Yes, most likely I'm some type of autistic according to modern standards.

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Summit racing accepted the return including the chopped up hose. 

I wasn't sure what Summit was going to do, so I found some Fragola fittings locally (Detroit Performance Center) and definitely paid for it. I assembled all the hoses last night, still need to flush them out and then sheath them and can finally move forward with the engine top end.  I think the nylon coated braided hose is pretty nice stuff, the inner liner is a bit softer so some care is needed there, when you insert the fitting it can fold and rip the inner liner, ask me how I know so I did some practice runs with the Fragola nuances.  I have a nice pair of cable cutters, however that was stretching the inner liner and deforming it, so went back to the trusty cutoff wheel.


2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI lol without ring seal, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

2013 Cruze Missile, tuned, 42 lb, ZZP SRI/FMIC/DP/MP/CB, Kappadapt trans mount

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Re: Twincharged Solstice = Turbocharger + Supercharger
« Reply #589 on: Yesterday at 01:08:35 PM »
Ebay vs. Fragola oil lines


Remade the LE5 throttle body gasket, original was handmade (lower left), so I scanned that to get it into CAD and made a file to cut out with the laser.  I designed the LUV throttle body gasket a while back, this time cut it out with Felpro material instead of cereal box.





The belt it was running no longer fits.  I installed the next size smaller pulley and it still didn't fit, so I tracked down the next size longer belt and that worked.  See picture, there is more of a selection of 6-rib serp belts, so I have just been cutting off a rib and haven't had any issues. 
Come to find I modified the old tensioner to get more range, so the new tensioner I just installed is why the OG belt didn't work.


Oops.  The bypass system has a higher priority than the BOV, so almost had that fixed last night except my TIG welder started having problems, not sure wtf is going on possibly bad bottle of gas, idk I bought an inline desiccant filter to install inline tonight.




2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI lol without ring seal, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

2013 Cruze Missile, tuned, 42 lb, ZZP SRI/FMIC/DP/MP/CB, Kappadapt trans mount

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