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Author Topic: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content  (Read 293 times)

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Offline Steelmesh

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My methanol injection tank was recently found completely frozen with outside temps ranging from 0-10F.  That is down to -17C, if you reference the chart linked below you will note that product I received last January (4 gallons) has a content of 0-25% methanol.  The product is clear and I have yet to learn chemistry on how to test the content with accuracy.  I have set Boost Juice on fire by pouring it on concrete and give it fire (I was looking into Canadian washer fluid at the time).  Devilsown brew did not flash either, but I trusted this company and attributed it to my testing method failing at the time.

http://novosolution.ca/images/Freezing-Points-Methanol.pdf

They advertise 49% Methanol content: http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/premixed-methanol/125-devilsown-brew.html

I ended up dumping a bottle of heet in it, but I hope the pump wasn't damaged/weakend internally.  It was probably frozen solid for 3 weeks, I am not tuned for water/meth in the Cruze, so I wasn't running it.  My copper plugs are about 10k miles, so was getting blow out, I was acid testing it with the methanol injection, but nothing happened.

I run Boost Juice in my Solstice and I got this Devilsown Brew for my Cruze.





The company Devilsown at Alcohol-Injection.com is unresponsive at this time...
« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 07:15:35 PM by Steelmesh »
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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 02:30:02 AM »
If it says it is 0-25%, doesn’t that mean it could be 0%?  Did I misread that?
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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 02:31:47 AM »
If it says it is 0-25%, doesn’t that mean it could be 0%?  Did I misread that?

Ah, disregard. The chart shows it would have content in that range if it froze at those temp. I see now.
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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 05:07:30 PM »
These cost only a few buck and are available for EthyleneGlycol + Water and Methanol + Water (some even can be used for both)

Can't you use that for testing this surprise mixture and the next mixture you might want to use ?



« Last Edit: January 11, 2018, 05:11:15 PM by RedOne07 »

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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 07:01:03 PM »
I'd be curious about the actual content.  I have a tester for E-85 which was very useful for when I was measuring for E47

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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 10:08:44 AM »
These cost only a few buck and are available for EthyleneGlycol + Water and Methanol + Water (some even can be used for both)

Can't you use that for testing this surprise mixture and the next mixture you might want to use ?

(Image removed from quote.)

While searching for a meth specific tool, I came across refractometers for alcohol testing, I wonder if that would be a good tool also.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Methanol-Handheld-Refractometer-Hydrometer-for-Measuring-Freezing-Point-/262906632513

3-in-1:
https://www.amazon.com/Antifreeze-Refractometer-Measuring-Automobile-Condition/dp/B01CQVHTCW/

Alcohol specific:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NCT14SW
« Last Edit: January 12, 2018, 10:15:44 AM by Steelmesh »
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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 02:00:41 PM »
Here it is, searched windshield washer fluid tester:

https://www.amazon.com/Z-Red-EZR-S104-Windshield-Hydrometer/dp/B00340YI4C
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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 04:08:27 PM »
Here it is, searched windshield washer fluid tester:

https://www.amazon.com/Z-Red-EZR-S104-Windshield-Hydrometer/dp/B00340YI4C

There's a cheaper version that looks identical: https://www.amazon.com/Z-Red-Windshield-Hydrometer-EZR-S104/dp/B000FN2HDA

But the review would give me pause:

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This product does not accurately read methanol percentages. The meter jumps up and down and is difficult to read. We tested it in our lab because our field people complained so much. Finaly we decided to return them.
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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 01:35:11 PM »
There's a cheaper version that looks identical: https://www.amazon.com/Z-Red-Windshield-Hydrometer-EZR-S104/dp/B000FN2HDA

But the review would give me pause:

I got a hydrometer on order now to measure specific gravity, scaled for 0.700-1.000,  where meth is about 0.792 and pure water 1.000 so I can measure everything in between.

https://www.amazon.com/Specific-Gravity-Hydrometer-Liquids-B61806-0100/dp/B00LUL5TIG
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Re: Public Alert - Devilsown Brew Water/Methanol FROZEN solid, 0-25% content
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 12:36:15 PM »
I just completed testing 17 samples.  I characterized 0%, 20-80%, and 100% Methanol + H2O mixtures, then I tested 7 products. 

Results of this empirical testing conclude that: Snow Performance and Devilsown are ripping us off!   Ripping off as in false advertising methanol content. 

Stay tuned for the video, it is currently in post-process as I just completed it yesterday.  I have a really bad taste in my mouth, wanted to put something down on the record here.
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