Welcome Guest!!!

Thank you for visiting the GM Kappa Performance Forum. This forum is the only performance oriented forum for all GM Kappa Platform Enthusiasts.  We hope you will join and share your experiences.  Becoming a member is FREE! If you want to advertise on this forum, email KappaPerformance at yahoo.com.


Registration required to view the forum attachments. Below is a sample of the current top 25 topics.
Supporting Membership has many advantages.


More information on becoming a supporting member or vendor can be found on the sub forum; Site Help and Suggestions; thread - Supporting Members and Vendors.

Author Topic: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune  (Read 6316 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2019, 10:45:56 AM »
Nope def not the gmpp sensor.  I'll def check wiring and clean connections.

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2019, 12:46:50 PM »
Anyone know where I can purchase a genuine GM Map sensor (the one that goes onto the intake manifold)?

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Premium Member
  • General Manager
  • *
  • Posts: 10330
  • Karma: +40/-66
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2019, 03:32:47 PM »
Any of the GM parts places online or GM dealerships, find the part number and you can probably even order from Amazon.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2019, 03:57:10 PM »
I've been all over...its out of stock everywhere.
I'm wondering if there are other makes of sensor that work ok.

Offline Critterman

  • Retired, thank you very much
  • Premium Member
  • General Manager
  • *
  • Posts: 13579
  • Karma: +17/-58
  • Baltimore/Washington Corridor
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2019, 04:55:48 PM »
Rockauto?
GONE: (but not forgotten) 2006 Cool named BIXABEL (BISH-AH-BEL) Mayan for "Good Roads"

DDM
StageIII intercooled Supercharger, Wisco ceramic coated pistons, Carrillo rods, superTech valves and Springs
Ported and polished head
Exedy Stage II Clutch
big brake kit, slotted/drilled Rotors w/Porterfield pads & blue juice
Backbone, Probeam, Cross Strut Brace
Underhood, trunk, & door Lights
ZOK suspension

JPM
Center console, door inserts, & dash
Seat bolster & lumbar support

Focuztech Tri-Y Header & hi-flow cat
Solo Performance SQR-2
Norm's Rear facia
Heated Seats
Black Cat inserts

Offline elff

  • Premium Member
  • General Manager
  • *
  • Posts: 11385
  • Karma: +26/-58
  • Location: Keebler Tree House
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2019, 05:45:27 PM »
Try PMing HoosierGXP.  He tends to have all sorts of spare parts

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2019, 06:51:11 PM »
I found the part number and cross referenced..rock auto is out and all of the GM parts places like GM parts online etc are out as well...kind of sucks...

Has anyone used a non GM map sensor with good results?

Offline Uranium-238

  • V8 power...Acquired!
  • Premium Member
  • Gearhead
  • *
  • Posts: 3030
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Southern Maryland
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2019, 12:10:52 AM »
I found the part number and cross referenced..rock auto is out and all of the GM parts places like GM parts online etc are out as well...kind of sucks...

Likely a result of anyone with an LS trying to turbo it. That or just stealerships trying to corner the market.

Still might not be a bad idea to call your local Chevy dealership and ask.
2005 Chevy Silverado Z71 Crew Cab, LM7 4L60E (What I traded my Kappa for. I regret nothing.)
2012 Chevy Camaro 2SS RS LS3 TR6060.
2021 Ram 2500 Cummins
2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. 3.6, manual trans.

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2019, 07:44:15 AM »
I'm wondering if anyone has used a non genuine GM MAP sensor and it worked well.  If so which one?

Offline Uranium-238

  • V8 power...Acquired!
  • Premium Member
  • Gearhead
  • *
  • Posts: 3030
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Southern Maryland
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2019, 10:12:00 AM »
I've known folks to use the Holley ones, but idk if they were running factory ECMs or aftermarket EFI.

https://www.holley.com/search/?q=map%20sensor
2005 Chevy Silverado Z71 Crew Cab, LM7 4L60E (What I traded my Kappa for. I regret nothing.)
2012 Chevy Camaro 2SS RS LS3 TR6060.
2021 Ram 2500 Cummins
2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. 3.6, manual trans.

Offline Steelmesh

  • Premium Member
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 670
  • Karma: +5/-2
  • Location: Detroit Metro
    • Kappadapt
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2019, 10:27:00 AM »
Any of the GM parts places online or GM dealerships, find the part number and you can probably even order from Amazon.

I recently got a counterfeit looking boost solenoid for my Cruze recently and also a counterfeit Bosch O2 sensor for my Silverado, both from Amazon.com.  My advice is to make sure the item description says specifically it is Genuine GM not just the same part number.
2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

2013 Cruze Missile, tuned, 42 lb, ZZP SRI/FMIC/DP/MP/CB, Kappadapt trans mount

Support Kappaperformance.com!!  Note: a couple huge corporations own and control several hundred of the top automotive enthusiast forums subsequently profiteering from these communities on the backs of volunteer moderators.

Offline Steelmesh

  • Premium Member
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 670
  • Karma: +5/-2
  • Location: Detroit Metro
    • Kappadapt
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2019, 10:28:38 AM »
I'm wondering if anyone has used a non genuine GM MAP sensor and it worked well.  If so which one?

I am running this bosch sensor from ballenger on the LE5 twincharger engine, not sure if this is plug and play with the LNF though

https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/product_info.php/cPath/129_143/products_id/1721?osCsid=4mai498veh17m95kh08d071d04
2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

2013 Cruze Missile, tuned, 42 lb, ZZP SRI/FMIC/DP/MP/CB, Kappadapt trans mount

Support Kappaperformance.com!!  Note: a couple huge corporations own and control several hundred of the top automotive enthusiast forums subsequently profiteering from these communities on the backs of volunteer moderators.

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2019, 11:56:50 AM »
That's the problem genuine GM doesn't seem to be available anymore....autozone has sure let that has lifetime warrantee but I don't know if it's any good.

Offline Steelmesh

  • Premium Member
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 670
  • Karma: +5/-2
  • Location: Detroit Metro
    • Kappadapt
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2019, 01:47:02 PM »
That's the problem genuine GM doesn't seem to be available anymore....autozone has sure let that has lifetime warrantee but I don't know if it's any good.

https://youtu.be/mEB7WbTTlu4?t=76



2006 Solstice #1458, Twincharged LE5/LEA, 5757+M62, Werks exh manifold, Tial bpv/wg, Cams, dual meth, 40 PSI, Kappadapt clutch hose/flywheel bolts/trans mount, Aisin AR5, Stage 5 clutch
Turbo-only power 444whp/422wtrq

2013 Cruze Missile, tuned, 42 lb, ZZP SRI/FMIC/DP/MP/CB, Kappadapt trans mount

Support Kappaperformance.com!!  Note: a couple huge corporations own and control several hundred of the top automotive enthusiast forums subsequently profiteering from these communities on the backs of volunteer moderators.

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2019, 01:51:17 PM »
The thing that blows my mind is that my car is running much better with the map cel!!!  I'm getting 22 to 26 psi no hesitation and less knock...

Anyone know why that is?
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 02:34:00 PM by MattM »

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2019, 02:33:38 PM »
https://youtu.be/mEB7WbTTlu4?t=76

Hahaha!!! Kudos to you sir for finding a way to include a Tommy boy clip logically into a conversation!!!! I give you infinite stars!!!

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2019, 12:09:54 PM »
So I decided to bite the bullet and just got the upgraded Trifecta custom tune to get them to really look at my datalogs.  They did find something that they said they have never seen before.

Esentially, ONLY above 5,000rpms my spark advance intermittently goes from 12 advance to 6 advance back up to 12.  It's obviously not what the tune is commanding and they are having issues determining why it's happening.  FYI it was happening before the tune with Trifecta so I know it's not that. 

Well, they were stumped until I told them that after I got the P0107 code with my MAP sensor the hesitation went away.  They think it's related to the MAP sensor (even though it wasn't throwing a code prior). 

They recommended I go with the 3-bar sensor, but I'm hesitant to spend the money if it doesn't fix the problem.  I'm already dropping $3,000 for the rear diff replacement.

Offline Critterman

  • Retired, thank you very much
  • Premium Member
  • General Manager
  • *
  • Posts: 13579
  • Karma: +17/-58
  • Baltimore/Washington Corridor
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2019, 03:56:42 PM »
That diff isn't going to do anything if you can't get the engine to run right
GONE: (but not forgotten) 2006 Cool named BIXABEL (BISH-AH-BEL) Mayan for "Good Roads"

DDM
StageIII intercooled Supercharger, Wisco ceramic coated pistons, Carrillo rods, superTech valves and Springs
Ported and polished head
Exedy Stage II Clutch
big brake kit, slotted/drilled Rotors w/Porterfield pads & blue juice
Backbone, Probeam, Cross Strut Brace
Underhood, trunk, & door Lights
ZOK suspension

JPM
Center console, door inserts, & dash
Seat bolster & lumbar support

Focuztech Tri-Y Header & hi-flow cat
Solo Performance SQR-2
Norm's Rear facia
Heated Seats
Black Cat inserts

Offline MattM

  • Master Tech
  • ***
  • Posts: 383
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Re: WOT Hesitation Above 5k RPMS With Intermittent Boost On Stock Tune
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2019, 04:43:15 PM »
That's just it!  After the check engine light it was running correctly.,

 

Powered by EzPortal