Welcome Guest!!!

Thank you for visiting the GM Kappa Performance Forum. This forum is the only performance oriented forum for all GM Kappa Platform Enthusiasts.  We hope you will join and share your experiences.  Becoming a member is FREE! If you want to advertise on this forum, email KappaPerformance at yahoo.com.


Registration required to view the forum attachments. Below is a sample of the current top 25 topics.
Supporting Membership has many advantages.


More information on becoming a supporting member or vendor can be found on the sub forum; Site Help and Suggestions; thread - Supporting Members and Vendors.

Author Topic: Lighted Sills  (Read 5654 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TomatoSoup

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Gearhead
  • *
  • Posts: 3029
  • Karma: +17/-13
  • Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2014, 10:12:40 AM »
Sorry Roadstar, wrong thread for your question, since this one is talking about SILLS - no door access reqd.  I did respond on your thread on the BB though.
"That is my theory, it is mine, and belongs to me and I own it, and what it is too." (Monty Python)

Offline Critterman

  • Retired, thank you very much
  • Lifetime Supporting
  • General Manager
  • *
  • Posts: 12317
  • Karma: +17/-54
  • Baltimore/Washington Corridor
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2014, 05:18:33 PM »
Did you try spitting on them?  That usually helps getting into tight space.......
2006 Cool named BIXABEL (BISH-AH-BEL) Mayan for "Good Roads"

DDM
StageIII intercooled Supercharger, Wisco ceramic coated pistons, Carrillo rods, superTech valves and Springs
Ported and polished head
Exedy Stage II Clutch
big brake kit, slotted/drilled Rotors w/Porterfield pads & blue juice
Backbone, Probeam, Cross Strut Brace
Underhood, trunk, & door Lights
ZOK suspension
Lambo Doors

JPM
Center console, door inserts, & dash
Seat bolster & lumbar support

Focuztech Tri-Y Header & hi-flow cat
Solo Performance SQR-2
Norm's Rear facia
Heated Seats
Black Cat inserts

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2014, 08:39:01 AM »
Interesting timing on this thread. The King Penn sills on Rogue have gone out. I noticed it when was cleaning him up for this weekends POCI sponsored car show. Checked the electrical connections and they're OK. I can hear the inverters humming, and can make them stop humming by uplugging the positive or negative lead at the harness near the fuse block. Do the EL units have a finite life? As little as Rogue is used that short of a life would be awfully disappointing. Thanks.
Go N.A.K.3.D..

Offline TomatoSoup

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Gearhead
  • *
  • Posts: 3029
  • Karma: +17/-13
  • Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2014, 08:53:35 AM »
A few people have had issues with the backlights shorting out across the metal of the sills themselves and had theirs replaced.  I think WR increased the insulation in that area in later production.  Contact them directly and they'll probably sort you out.

If you take off the sill(s) and see blackened wiring, you'll know for sure.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 08:59:16 AM by TomatoSoup »
"That is my theory, it is mine, and belongs to me and I own it, and what it is too." (Monty Python)

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2014, 09:12:36 AM »
Thanks TS. Now that you've mentioned it we did have that problem with one of the EL's in GXPsy and WR was excellent about replacing the defective one. And yes, it had shorted to the body through the insulation. Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Go N.A.K.3.D..

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2014, 12:30:25 PM »
In answer to the life of ELs, yes they will wear out but what usually happens is that over time they start to dim and eventually just don't light up anymore.  I suspect TS is right, if I remember correctly the conneions can rub on the body and either short on the body or get wet and short.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline Critterman

  • Retired, thank you very much
  • Lifetime Supporting
  • General Manager
  • *
  • Posts: 12317
  • Karma: +17/-54
  • Baltimore/Washington Corridor
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2014, 01:44:46 PM »
In answer to the life of ELs, yes they will wear out but what usually happens is that over time they start to dim and eventually just don't light up anymore.  I suspect TS is right, if I remember correctly the conneions can rub on the body and either short on the body or get wet and short.

Did I type that?  Did you mean connections?
2006 Cool named BIXABEL (BISH-AH-BEL) Mayan for "Good Roads"

DDM
StageIII intercooled Supercharger, Wisco ceramic coated pistons, Carrillo rods, superTech valves and Springs
Ported and polished head
Exedy Stage II Clutch
big brake kit, slotted/drilled Rotors w/Porterfield pads & blue juice
Backbone, Probeam, Cross Strut Brace
Underhood, trunk, & door Lights
ZOK suspension
Lambo Doors

JPM
Center console, door inserts, & dash
Seat bolster & lumbar support

Focuztech Tri-Y Header & hi-flow cat
Solo Performance SQR-2
Norm's Rear facia
Heated Seats
Black Cat inserts

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2014, 12:48:48 AM »
It's spelled wrong so you must have typed it.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2014, 07:31:49 AM »
No SA, you must have done it. It was the only mistake. Critter would have misspelled several words.
Go N.A.K.3.D..

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2014, 11:03:48 AM »
Good point, clearly my bad, sorry everyone.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline Critterman

  • Retired, thank you very much
  • Lifetime Supporting
  • General Manager
  • *
  • Posts: 12317
  • Karma: +17/-54
  • Baltimore/Washington Corridor
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2014, 05:01:12 PM »
No SA, you must have done it. It was the only mistake. Critter would have misspelled several words.

E tu Brutus?
2006 Cool named BIXABEL (BISH-AH-BEL) Mayan for "Good Roads"

DDM
StageIII intercooled Supercharger, Wisco ceramic coated pistons, Carrillo rods, superTech valves and Springs
Ported and polished head
Exedy Stage II Clutch
big brake kit, slotted/drilled Rotors w/Porterfield pads & blue juice
Backbone, Probeam, Cross Strut Brace
Underhood, trunk, & door Lights
ZOK suspension
Lambo Doors

JPM
Center console, door inserts, & dash
Seat bolster & lumbar support

Focuztech Tri-Y Header & hi-flow cat
Solo Performance SQR-2
Norm's Rear facia
Heated Seats
Black Cat inserts

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2014, 10:12:49 PM »
Just got a response from the folks at Windrestrictor/King Penn Industries. The lighted sills came with a one year warranty. Plus, they no longer manufacture using inverters and EL elements. They did, however, offer to make their new LED sill lights available at a significant discount for the purpose of customer satisfaction. Not sure yet what I'm going to do.
Go N.A.K.3.D..

Offline Gentleman Jack

  • I haven't been relevant for a while
  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8216
  • Karma: +19/-78
  • Location: Unknown
  • When I'm walkin' I strut my stuff
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2014, 11:19:58 PM »
Just got a response from the folks at Windrestrictor/King Penn Industries. The lighted sills came with a one year warranty. Plus, they no longer manufacture using inverters and EL elements. They did, however, offer to make their new LED sill lights available at a significant discount for the purpose of customer satisfaction. Not sure yet what I'm going to do.

A dollar?
May the Schwartz be wit you

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 11:36:59 PM »
5 Euro?
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline TomatoSoup

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Gearhead
  • *
  • Posts: 3029
  • Karma: +17/-13
  • Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2014, 03:21:52 PM »
Crap.  That doesn't seem like the customer service I've been led to expect from them.  Hmmm...
"That is my theory, it is mine, and belongs to me and I own it, and what it is too." (Monty Python)

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2014, 08:17:07 PM »
To quote their email response to me:

Dear Jeffrey A Dewey,

Jeff, Your sills came with a 1 year warranty. We no longer carry the electro-luminescent door sills with the inverters. However, I can offer you our new style door sill with LED technology at 30% off retail ($139.30 sills + $19.00 shipping, total: $157.30) We want to keep you as a happy customer.

Click the following link to send your response to KPI support:


Pretty disappointing considering the car has just 4K miles on it. The EL's couldn't have more than just a few hours of use on them. Oh well.
Go N.A.K.3.D..

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2014, 08:44:34 PM »
It's been too long since I worked on any of these , are there two inverters?  Does one of the sills still work?

You can probably wire both sills to one inverter.  Another option is to get a new inverter.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2014, 09:06:09 AM »
At least one inverter is working. I can hear the hum. However, neither sill is illuminated.l
Go N.A.K.3.D..

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2014, 11:10:19 AM »
Check the connections (spelled right this time) at the EL strip.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline Gentleman Jack

  • I haven't been relevant for a while
  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8216
  • Karma: +19/-78
  • Location: Unknown
  • When I'm walkin' I strut my stuff
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2014, 10:27:23 PM »
Throw them in the trash.
May the Schwartz be wit you

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2014, 07:57:52 AM »
I'll check all the connections one more time, but I'll probably follow GJ's suggestion. Except for the fact that the red shows up well even if they don't light. It's highly unlikely I'll be buying any more at this time.
Go N.A.K.3.D..

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2014, 11:02:36 AM »
Before you trash them maybe you could send them to one of us with some electrical skills and we could take a look and see if there is an easy fix.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline Gentleman Jack

  • I haven't been relevant for a while
  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8216
  • Karma: +19/-78
  • Location: Unknown
  • When I'm walkin' I strut my stuff
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2014, 10:06:29 PM »
I have no electrical skills. Please don't send them to me.
May the Schwartz be wit you

Offline Sol Asylum

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Shop Foreman
  • *
  • Posts: 8647
  • Karma: +35/-63
  • Location: Tolono Illinois
  • THAT'S MISTER KAPPA ASSYLUM TO YOU!
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2014, 11:20:23 PM »
You have skills?  Oh wait I remember those pictures of what you did to that bottle at that mod meet.
2007 Aggressive GXP

Offline Rogue

  • Lifetime Supporting
  • Master Tech
  • *
  • Posts: 636
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Location: Somewhere VA
Re: Lighted Sills
« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2014, 01:18:35 PM »
I have pretty fair electrical/electronic skills of my own. A degree in Physics, several years in Pro Audio including circuit design and repair - analog and digital - and many more years as a sales engineer in electromechanical Industrial Controls. If I decide to reverse engineer and/or diagnose I'll give any of you a shot at it after I'm done having my fun!
Go N.A.K.3.D..

 

Powered by EzPortal