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GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« on: April 27, 2010, 08:26:10 PM »
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/27/gm-e-rod-crate-motor-no-longer-just-for-the-shiftless/

"The E-ROD engine isn't really new... it's basically the base Corvette powerplant, adapted for mounting in just about anything. It's a 6.2-liter LS3 rated at 430 horsepower and 424 pound-feet of torque, and pointedly, it's also fully emissions compliant, which is the main draw."

Also http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_0911_1955_chevy_erod/index.html

Since this thing is meant to drop into a project car, maybe it'll be easier to shove in a kappa?
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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 10:46:13 PM »
They never mention that it is NOT acceptable to swap into an OBD2 car.

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2010, 06:16:41 AM »
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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2010, 07:34:28 AM »
The specs read just like the new Camaro engine.
Is that the V8 they use?

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2010, 08:20:31 AM »
It's the LS3, the same engine as they use in the base Corvette and Camaro SS.  When it was originally released it was only compatible with autos, now they've programmed another electronic control module so that is also compatible with the Camaro 6-spd manual transmission.  Which means you have to buy the LS3 and a Camaro 6sp manual.  GMs also starting to engineer their next new generation small block (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/27/gm-investing-890m-in-next-gen-small-block-v8s/) which will probably be lighter, more efficient, and more powerful.


Here's the GM press release).   

GM PERFORMANCE PARTS ANNOUNCES MANUAL-TRANSMISSION E-ROD PACKAGE
GRAND BLANC, Mich. GM Performance Parts' innovative, emissions-compliant E-ROD crate engine lineup expands with a new version calibrated for manual-transmissions. It is available for immediate ordering under part number 19256487.

The manual-transmission package includes all of the same parts as the original, automatic-transmission-calibrated package (19244805); only the electronic control module's programming is different. The list price for both versions is $9,375.

GM Performance Parts recommends the following parts to complement the manual-transmission E-ROD package:

* Camaro LS3 six-speed manual transmission (92236241 includes hydraulic release bearing actuator)
* Flywheel (12571611)
* Flywheel bolts(11569956 six required)
* Pilot bearing (12557583)
* Pressure plate (24255748)
* Pressure plate bolts (12561465 six required)
* Release bearing (19210297)

The E-ROD kit includes the same, basic LS3 production engine found in the current Camaro SS and Corvette. Standard elements of the kit include:

* 6.2-liter LS3 crate engine, rated at 430 horsepower and 424 lb.-ft. of torque
* GMPP LS3 engine wiring harness
* GMPP engine control module
* Exhaust manifolds
* Catalytic converters
* Oxygen sensors and sensor bosses
* Fuel tank evaporative emissions canister
* Mass airflow sensor and sensor boss
* Accelerator pedal (for use with the LS3's electronic throttle)
* Air filter
* Instruction manual

In addition to the E-ROD system, the builder will need to source additional fuel system components to complete the assembly and get the vehicle running. Please refer to the installation instructions for further details. All of the GMPP installation guides can be found at www.gmperformanceparts.com/extras.

E-ROD engines also require a front-end accessory drive system suitable to the vehicle. The instruction manual includes recommendations and measurements for the accessory drive kit, as well as gear ratios and more.

The E-ROD crate engine packages are available through GM dealers, authorized GMPP retailers and via the GMPP Web site, www.gmperformanceparts.com.

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GM Performance Parts crate engines undergo an extensive, full-power engine dynamometer validation that requires the engines perform from peak horsepower to peak torque. That commitment to quality and durability enables General Motors to back GM Performance Parts crate engines with a 24-month/50,000-mile warranty (whichever occurs first). All GM Performance Parts components carry a 12-month/12,000-mile warranty.

Enthusiasts who crave the latest technology, maximum horsepower and the expertise and confidence backed by GM, can purchase GMPP crate engines, blocks, heads, high-performance transmissions and components from GMPP Authorized Center dealers or any other GM dealership nationwide. To shop for GMPP products, or for more information, visit www.gmperformanceparts.com.

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2010, 08:59:25 AM »
They never mention that it is NOT acceptable to swap into an OBD2 car.

Well there you go! I didn't know that. Definitely just for old car engine swaps then :)
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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2010, 06:01:07 PM »
Doable but a pain in the rear.

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2010, 07:07:10 PM »
They never mention that it is NOT acceptable to swap into an OBD2 car.

Uh, why?
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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 04:39:07 PM »
The certification they got makes it only acceptable for OBD1 and earlier cars.

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 01:09:29 PM »
The certification they got makes it only acceptable for OBD1 and earlier cars.

A little more explication please.

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 03:15:23 PM »
By the letter of the law, if only certified for obd-1 cars, then anything newer than that, it is not certifified for those vehicles and will not be legal to operate in any state.
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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 05:16:53 PM »
For a Solstice you're better off buying a factory replacement engine from a Corvette/Camaro/G8 (or a wreck) from the same year or newer car.

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2010, 07:13:14 PM »
Yep don't waste the money on the E-rod!
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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2010, 09:36:51 PM »
 Thats what its coming to all over .They just passed something in Califorina where any Street Rod built Jan.1,2011 HAS to Meet all state codes for Emmisions . This means the Motors that they use will have to have  everything meet New car standards Right down to the exhaust w/cat    :banghead:   :gaah:  that Sucks Big time.
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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 11:19:08 PM »
when getting a used engine from ebay does it have to be from a car fro the same year or can it be any LS1,2,3,6,or 7

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Re: GM E-Rod engine. Perfect for V8 Kappa swaps?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2011, 08:55:40 PM »
Thats what its coming to all over .They just passed something in Califorina where any Street Rod built Jan.1,2011 HAS to Meet all state codes for Emmisions . This means the Motors that they use will have to have  everything meet New car standards Right down to the exhaust w/cat    :banghead:   :gaah:  that Sucks Big time.

Good. It's not too hard to have functional emissions equipment in place, and with computer controlled engines, it's not even costing much power.

 

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