Topic: LatinVenom Front Chassis Brace project

[LatinVenom]

Kenny,
Thank you for that info on PAYPAL.
For those that want to use it as a personal choice, then as Kenny post says no fees.
Although the price of the LAtinVenom Kappa Front Chassis Brace is below $100.00, you need to considered the shipping charges.

[1LILNDN]

The 15th,   Well just hope that Benjamin don't burn a hole in my pocket & go some where else     

Mike

Mike Why not just trade him in for 20 lincolns or 10 Hamiltons or 100 Washingtons or 50 Jeffersons . Then spend wisely or NOT At ALL

[HAMMER DOWN]

^^^ I live up here in the North East. I could have snow on the ground by then or end of Oct. GXP get's  put up at the 1st snow fall. And with me working between 50hrs. to 60hrs. a week. Theirs a good chance I will have to wait to next spring to test it out.

Has a home owner, like many others with homes & family, that Benjamin can be spent a 100 ways from Sunday, so spending my $$$$$$ wisely is not problem. I'm sometimes not a patient guy.

Mike

[DeepBlueGXP]

Hammer, the 15th is only a few days away and if you're too impatient, there are many others waiting in line for the first 5. 

[HAMMER DOWN]

Damn, don't you guys read the whole post. At the end of my post, is   . Just  a little  . Then you got  1 LIL NDN  tell me how to spend my $$$$$$$$$. I not the one that needs to  . But hay I'm out, someone else can take my slot.

NOW I need to  

Mike

[HAMMER DOWN]

UPDATE:
The new fabricator is on board and the price will be less than a $100.00.
The price above does NOT include shipping.
I am going to make 5 of the Latinvenom Kappa Front Chassis Brace.
They should be done by the last week of October.
If you want one of these put your name on the following list.

1.  DeepBlueGXp
2.  DeepblueGXP
3.
4.  Desk305
5.  Marvic 1
6.  I LIL NDN
7.  Spartan
8.  Tomatosoup
9.  DRM
10. S.P.
11. U4EA

I'm out, someone else can have my slot.

Mike

[DeepBlueGXP]

So is this another bit of your  
I didn't see a poke on your other post or I wouldn't asked you to 

[LatinVenom]

UPDATE
The fabricator is going to make the 10 Front Chassis Braces.
I should have them in my hands on October the 26th.
The Price of the LatinVenom Kappa(LNF) Front Chassis Brace will be $95.00 plus shipping.
Please go to the following link at the bottom of the post to get the shipping charges.
PLEASE!!! Make sure you check the box Ship to a Residence.
The Pickup/Dropoff  choose Drop off at Fedex location
Total weight is 6lbs. The box will be 4x4x36.
The from ZIP is 33414.
If your are paying by PAYPAL and you use the method that requires fees, then you need to add that to your total.
If you want to pay by MONEY ORDER then let me know and I will PM you my address.

LIST of Members:
1.  DeepBlueGXp
2.  DeepblueGXP
3.  Desk305
4.  Marvic 1
5.  I LIL NDN
6.  Spartan
7.  Go-N-Def
8.  DRM
9. S.P.
10. U4EA

http://www.fedex.com/ratefinder/home?cc=US&language=en&locId=express

[Sly Bob]

If anybody drops out, I'm in.

[LatinVenom]

In case no body drops out why not start a new list.

New list for next batch of front Brace.

1. Sly Bob
2.
3. DirtyMike
4. pharmboy

[Go-N Def]

Add me too! Thanks!

[TomatoSoup]

It can be used with the DDM brace, they serve different purposes.

That was the brace that I was talking about when I said that it would work with other braces.

So, Kenny (or Bob), would you explain what the "different purposes" are?  What would I (or anyone) gain from having both DDM's and LV's?  

[Sly Bob]

My statement that it could be used with another companies brace was meant for those that are looking for the maximum in structural rigidity.

My feeling is that anytime we built a structure whether it's a car frame, a bridge or a roof truss to support the roofs on our homes we add braces. Those braces can take the form of as gussets or we can add addition members to the structure to make it stronger. The latter is what we doing in this instance.

The unknown at this point is if both are required. More is obviously better though because as we add structural members the structure becomes stronger.   

[HAMMER DOWN]

Very true, another way to look at it. Is to look at where the frame going to start flexing first when driving. That's usually where the upper & lower control arms mount to the frame. The ideal spot for the support bar is at the same location like the DDM's. The next best thing is as close as possible to that location, like LV's.

More is not obviously better though because as we add to much structural members. The structure loses all of it flexibility and could brake some where else down the line.  Could this be the case with are cars? 

Mike

[DeepBlueGXP]

Posted from another thread about the relocating the power steering

Just sucks that we can't do it and stay B-SP legal.

Not needed with this brace!

[Sly Bob]

Looking forward to the feedback that comes from the first run of 10 but I like the looks of DDM's brace. Remember you don't HAVE to relocate the PS reservoir with DDM's. If you aren't racing how often do you check the PS levels anyway. 

[TomatoSoup]

My point is that I already have the DDM brace.  I'm on the "1st ten" list for LV's but am beginning to think that having both may be passing the point of diminishing returns.  I will certainly stick to my word for buying the LV brace, if nobody else will take it, but it looks like there is a waiting list and that won't be an issue.

So, should I get both, will it buy me anything?  Or stick with just the DDM.  Kenny had said they do different things, but my mechanical brain can't really see that.

[Critterman]

TS, buy it and test it with and without the DDM brace installed.

[kennysabarese]

I'm pretty sure in the DDM cross bay brace thread Dave mentioned the difference between a chassis brace (which he calls a ladder brace) and their tower cross bay brace and the different purposes they serve.

[kennysabarese]

Found it for you (and corrected my above post which had mistakes):

http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=5106.msg69903#msg69903

[kennysabarese]

I think this comparison discussion should probably happen in another thread.

I don't think we should bash one or the other here.

I'll start it up.

[TomatoSoup]

I think this comparison discussion should probably happen in another thread.

I don't think we should bash one or the other here.

I'll start it up.

I'm certainly not for bashing anyone here. As I said, I think both are good.  My query was only whether BOTH together are worth it.

Nonetheless, I do see your point and moved my question to your other thread.  (Deleted previous post above.)

[LatinVenom]

Very true, another way to look at it. Is to look at where the frame going to start flexing first when driving. That's usually where the upper & lower control arms mount to the frame. The ideal spot for the support bar is at the same location like the DDM's. The next best thing is as close as possible to that location, like LV's.

More is not obviously better though because as we add to much structural members. The structure loses all of it flexibility and could brake some where else down the line.  Could this be the case with are cars?  

Mike

Mike,
The A arms joints are welded to the chassis, so in our case there is no SHOCK TOWER.
Please see my post in the thread Kenny start it.

[HAMMER DOWN]

^^^ OK thanks, I didn't say anything about shock tower   , but after reading your post & seeing  Kenny's pic. That your brace line up with the front part of the upper A arms mount.  Which I thought your brace was foreword more. IMO both your braces would be equivalent to each other.

So it comes down to, how much money you want to spend, what you want your engine bay look like & the rules of your racing club you belong too.

After seeing exactly where yours mounts. I think I shot myself in the foot. But that's no biggy. I just have to keep a look out fore the next order.

Mike

[Uranium-238]

Posted from another thread about the relocating the power steering

Not needed with this brace!

Actually I believe this brace is flat out B-SP illegal, for the same reasons that the DDM backbone brace is illegal. Sucks, but not much we can do about it.