Author Topic: Help - GXP Check engine code P0016 and P0017 (Read 27544 times)

DRM · « **on:** March 02, 2011, 01:38:34 PM »

Ok,

I need help from all of you smart Solstice junkies.

My check engine light came on this morning on my GXP and I have 4 codes in the following order:

1. P0016 Crankshaft Position-Intake Camshaft Position Correlation
2. P0017 Crankshaft Position-Exhaust Camshaft Position Correlation
3. P0016 Crankshaft Position-Intake Camshaft Position Correlation
4. P0017 Crankshaft Position-Exhaust Camshaft Position Correlation

I have done nothing new to the engine or intake yet and changed my oil last week. I have the GMPP software and sensor upgrade, which I have had install for a couple of years now.

I have 65k + miles on it and have not had any problems and I hate going to a dealer.

Any ideas on what I can try to fix this my self or am I at the mercy of the dealership.

Thanks,
Derek

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2011, 02:17:51 PM »

I'm not sure if that was the same codes that Elff was seeing but they soldered the wires to the GMPP sensors to fix it.

Arabas · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2011, 02:26:46 PM »

DRM, since you have the GMPP and haven't done any more modes to your Sol, i suggest you let the dealer deal with it.
if you get some feedback from the guys here for what it could be, then you could let the dealer know what they should check first

TomatoSoup · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2011, 02:28:37 PM »

A quick search on both boards turned up these - may be of some help...

http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,4758.0.html
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f63/code-problems-63466/#post960957
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f12/throwing-p0016-p0017-cel-64896/
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f12/p0011-code-66211/

DRM · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2011, 03:21:10 PM »

Quote from: Arabas on March 02, 2011, 02:26:46 PM

DRM, since you have the GMPP and haven't done any more modes to your Sol, i suggest you let the dealer deal with it.
if you get some feedback from the guys here for what it could be, then you could let the dealer know what they should check first

I did forget to mention that I do have the K&N drop in oil air filter. I bought a can of MAF cleaner and will clean the MAF off tonight.

Also the nipple on the Air intake broke off last week and I glued it back on. This is one reason that I ordered the K&N Typhoon CAI, because the nipple on the intake tube is metal....Plus I think this CAI look cool.

DRM · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2011, 03:23:01 PM »

I will check my GMPP sensor wires tonight.

DRM · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2011, 03:23:41 PM »

TS...Thanks for the informative links.

elff · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2011, 03:36:22 PM »

FYI I never had crankshaft errors with mine.

DRM · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2011, 04:21:16 PM »

So far based off of info you all have supplied me I am going to do the following tonight:
1. Check the GMPP sensor wires...which I think are fine.
2. Clean the MAF sensor.
3. Replace the CAMS Position sensors...The Intake and Exhaust..I don't think it would hurt to do this anyway.

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2011, 04:23:19 PM »

If you're not out of warranty, I would take it in. Replacing a senor that reports the timing is out (possible) won't fix a timing issue.

I'd do the simple things first. Clean the MAF and MAP sensors and reset the codes. If they come back, take it in.

DRM · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2011, 06:35:04 PM »

Quote from: DeepBlueGXP on March 02, 2011, 04:23:19 PM

If you're not out of warranty, I would take it in. Replacing a senor that reports the timing is out (possible) won't fix a timing issue.

I'd do the simple things first. Clean the MAF and MAP sensors and reset the codes. If they come back, take it in.

I will try the simple thing first then...thanks

spider · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2011, 07:07:41 PM »

Being both cams show to be out of phase I would suspect the crank sensor. Its next to the oil pressure sensor above the starter towards the back. I second taking it to the dealer. It should be an easy diagnosis.

DRM · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2011, 11:29:07 PM »

I tried the following:

1. Checked the GMPP sensor wires and all looks good.
2. Clean the MAF and MAP sensors. Cleared the codes and went for a drive. Parked and turned the car off then on. The check engine light reappeared.

So I guess its off to a dealer.

A couple of more questions:

1. Should I remove the top of the DDMWorks cross brace before going to the dealer...for better engine access?

2. Should I wait before putting on the K&N typhoon CAI? I just can't wait to install it and I am concerned that the Service Department might give me a hard time about it.

Gentleman Jack · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2011, 12:33:51 AM »

am I crazy or do I remember some folks having to to a crank shaft pos. sensor relearn? Or was that something else? After a dead battery or something? Could it be a low battery causing bad info?

Someone who remembers the CPS relearn chime in?

GJ

elff · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2011, 06:15:54 AM »

I would say yes to both of Drm's questions

Not sure GJ

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2011, 06:48:57 AM »

Crankshaft relearns are on the 2.4L only.

Yes to both DRM''s questions also

Kelu · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2011, 07:49:35 AM »

Quote from: Gentleman Jack on March 03, 2011, 12:33:51 AM

am I crazy or do I remember some folks having to to a crank shaft pos. sensor relearn? Or was that something else? After a dead battery or something? Could it be a low battery causing bad info?

I killed my battery 4-5 times until now, no issues what so ever, jump start it without any issues.

The only issue which I have every time I forget about my alarm system and every time I connect the cables to jump start it the alarm goes on and scares the sh!t out of me because the secondary bugle is right under the battery.

DRM · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2011, 01:24:45 PM »

I am very nervous right now.... I took the car to the dealership that install my GMPP tune, which went well. I have not delt with this dealer for anything else. I just haven't found one I can trust yet. Hope this dealer is a winner. The dealer that I trusted and who I bought my Solstice from went out of business.

Fingers Crossed.

DRM · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2011, 06:18:35 PM »

The dealership started on the car late and don't know what is causing the codes yet. They are keeping the car over night....Ugh...

Kelu · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2011, 07:49:24 PM »

relax

DRM · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2011, 11:48:21 AM »

Trying.....

Critterman · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2011, 02:20:20 PM »

Deep breath in through the nose
hold
release throught the mouth

repeat

DRM · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2011, 04:06:13 PM »

This is my 100th post on this forum.....One bright spot today...

I am taking a Deep Breath right now....

The dealership just called. Deep Breath...

They have their Corvette tech working on my Beloved Solstice.

They do not believe this is a sensor issue. They believe it is an Internal Mechanical Failure in the Engine that they believe will be covered under warranty.....Deep Breath....

It sounded like they will need to remove and or take the engine apart to find the problem.

So, the dealership is getting me a rental car for a few days.

Deep breath in through the nose
hold
release through the mouth

repeat

elff · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2011, 04:10:11 PM »

This is one of the things that just makes me worry about doing upgrades to our cars.

Then I figured
FAWK IT
If I blow my shit up, I will rebuild it stronger and better

Good luck with everything. Sounds like you are being taken care of properly and for free.

Critterman · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2011, 05:00:18 PM »

Might as well build them up, as they are breaking anyway. If you rebuild it will be stronger than factory. If they rebuild you have the same $H!T on rebuilt.

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