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Camshaft sensor
« on: April 21, 2011, 04:23:53 PM »
So, 2 days ago on my drive to work in the morning I got the engine light on half way to work. Left work and it was still on went to Autozone for a check. They said it was a driveshaft senor error. I left there and it wasn't on. Yesterday drove to work and it wasn't on, drove home and halfway there it turned on again. It is still on when I drove to work today. Has anyone else had this issue? Also, I was thinking of going back to Autozone to get the sensor since it was $40 and haven't found another one that cheap even online. Where is the sensor going to be when I do replace it front or rear side of the driveshaft?

The guy showed me what it was on the PC screen, I guess he couldn't print it at that time. He just showed me so I know it was a driveshaft sensor issue.
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Re: Driveshaft sensor
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 04:27:43 PM »
Get the CEL code, there isn't a driveshaft sensor.  Perhaps he meant cam shaft.

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Re: Driveshaft sensor
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 06:44:02 PM »
It is a P0011 cel.  I am getting an oil change right now to see if that is the cause.  It is about the time for one too anyways.

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Re: Driveshaft sensor
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 07:33:09 PM »
If you need an oil change get one but that isn't likely to fix anything. That code is in fact related to the camshaft sensor. You don't have any information in your profile as to what year your Solstice is. There is sometimes service information available that is specific to a particular year.

http://www.obd-codes.com/p0011

And here's some troubleshooting information.



Circuit/System Description
The camshaft position (CMP) actuator is attached to each camshaft and is hydraulically operated in order to change the angle of the camshaft relative to crankshaft position (CKP). The CMP actuator solenoid is controlled by the control module. The control module sends a pulse width modulated 12-volt signal to a CMP actuator solenoid. The solenoid controls the amount of engine oil flow to a CMP actuator. The CMP actuator can change the camshaft angle a maximum of 25 degrees. The control module increases the pulse width to accomplish the desired camshaft operation.

and this is everything that they have to test for this one code.

Circuit/System Verification
Ensure the vehicle has the proper oil viscosity.
Observe the engine oil level. The engine oil level should be within the operating range.
Allow the engine to reach operating temperature.
Increase the engine speed to 1,500 RPM.
Command each CMP actuator to 25 percent. The CMP actuator angle desired parameter should match the CMP actuator actual parameter.
Circuit/System Testing
With the ignition ON, measure for battery voltage between the CMP actuator solenoid control of the affected actuator and a ground.
⇒ If less than battery voltage, test the CMP actuator control circuit for an open, short to ground. If the circuit tests normal, replace the control module.

Connect a test lamp between the CMP actuator solenoid control of the affected actuator and a good ground. The test lamp should not illuminate.
⇒ If the test lamp illuminates, test the CMP actuator control circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the control module.

Command each CMP actuator solenoid between 0-50 percent. The test lamp should turn ON and OFF.
⇒ If the test lamp does not turn ON and OFF, test the CMP actuator control circuit for high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the control module.

Connect a test lamp between the low reference circuit of the CMP actuator solenoid of the affected actuator and battery voltage. The test lamp should illuminate.
⇒ If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the low reference circuit for an open, high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the control module.

Determine that the vehicle has the correct engine oil. Refer to Service and Appearance Care in the owner's manual.
⇒ If the engine oil life system monitor displays the Change Oil Soon message, the engine oil is more than one year old, contains additives, or is not the correct viscosity, change the oil.

Test the engine oil pressure. Refer to Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing .
⇒ If the oil pressure is low, correct the low pressure first.

Inspect each CMP actuator solenoid valve assembly for the following:
• Torn screens

• Debris on the screens

• Debris clogging the oil ports

• Missing screens

• Oil seepage at the solenoid connector pins

Inspect for the following conditions:
• Excessive timing chain play

• Proper installation of the CMP actuator assembly

Component Testing
Measure the resistance of each CMP actuator solenoid valve assembly. Resistance should be between 8-12 ohms.
Connect a jumper wire between the CMP actuator low reference circuit at the solenoid and a good ground. Connect a fused jumper wire to the CMP actuator high control circuit at the solenoid. Momentarily touch the fused jumper to B+. Observe the spool valve inside the CMP actuator. The spool valve should move from fully closed to fully opened position.
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Re: Driveshaft sensor
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 07:54:55 PM »
See also the thread on my (self-inflicted) issue with the sensor wiring.  THIS WILL NOT BE YOUR PROBLEM :)  But there are photo's of the sensors so you can find them when you remove your engine cover...

http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,6702
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Re: Driveshaft sensor
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 07:55:10 PM »
Here is more specific information that was originally posted on the BB by Small Dealer.



DTC P0010, P0011, P0013, or P0014

Diagnostic Instructions
• Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

• Review Strategy Based Diagnosis for an overview of the diagnostic approach.

• Diagnostic Procedure Instructions provides an overview of each diagnostic category.

DTC Descriptors

DTC P0010: Intake Camshaft Position (CMP) Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit

DTC P0011: Intake Camshaft Position (CMP) System Performance

DTC P0013: Exhaust Camshaft Position (CMP) Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit

DTC P0014: Exhaust Camshaft Position (CMP) System Performance


Circuit/System Description

The camshaft position actuator system enables the Engine Control Module (ECM) to change the timing of the camshafts while the engine is operating. The Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve signal from the ECM is pulse width modulated (PWM). The ECM controls the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve duty cycle by controlling the amount of solenoid valve ON time. The Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve controls the advance or the retard of each camshaft. The Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve controls the oil flow that applies the pressure to advance or retard the camshafts.

The ECM controls the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve by suppling a 12 V pulse width modulated (PWM) signal. The ECM supplies a ground to the low reference circuit.

Conditions for Running the DTC

P0010 and P0013
• The ignition voltage is between 11-18 V.

• The ECM has commanded the camshaft position actuator solenoid valve ON.

• The ignition switch is in the Crank or Run position.

• DTC P0010 and P0013 run continuously when the above conditions are met.

P0011 and P0014
• DTC P0010, P0013, P0016, P0017, P0335, P0336, P0340, P0341, P0365, or P0366 is not set.

• The engine is running.

• The camshaft position actuator solenoid valve is ON.

• The desired camshaft position is greater than 0 degrees.

• The desired camshaft position is not changing greater than 3 degrees for at least 3 s.

• The ignition voltage is between 11-18 V.

• DTC P0011 and P0014 run continuously when the above conditions are met.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

P0010 and P0013
The ECM detects the commanded state of the driver and the actual state of the control circuit do not match for greater than 5 s

P0011 and P0014
The difference between the desied CMP actuator angle and the actual CMP actuator angle is greater than 6 degrees for greater than 13.5 s.


Diagnostic Aids

• The engine oil condition has a major impact on the camshaft actuator system.

• A low oil level condition may set this DTC. The engine may require an oil change. Inquire with the customer when the last oil change was performed. You may also monitor the scan tool Engine Oil Life Remaining parameter. Advise the customer an oil change may be required.

• Inspect the engine for any recent engine mechanical repairs. An incorrectly installed camshaft, camshaft actuator, or timing chain can cause a DTC to set.


Circuit/System Verification

Note:

• The engine oil level and the oil pressure are critical to the correct operation of the camshaft position actuator system. Verify that the engine has the correct oil level and the correct oil pressure before continuing with this diagnostic. Refer to Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing.

• The engine oil condition has a major impact on the camshaft actuator system. Debris in the oil can interfere with the camshaft position actuator solenoid and the mechanical camshaft actuator operation. Inspect for dirty or degraded crankcase oil. The engine may require an oil change. Inquire with the customer when the last oil change was performed. You may also monitor the scan tool Engine Oil Life Remaining parameter. Advise the customer an oil change may be required.

• If a crankshaft or camshaft position sensor DTC is set, the Camshaft Position Actuator output control will not function.



1) Ignition ON, observe the scan tool DTC information. Verify that DTC P0016, P0017, P0335, P0336, P0340, P0341, P0365, or P0366 is not set.
⇒ If a DTC is set, refer to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle for further diagnosis.

2) Engine at normal operating temperature, raise the engine speed to 2,000 RPM for 10 s. DTC P0010 or P0013 should not set.

3) Engine idling, command the appropriate Camshaft Position Actuator from 0 degrees to 20 degrees and back to zero while observing the appropriate scan tool Camshaft Position Variance parameters. The Camshaft Position Variance should be less than 2 degrees in each of the commanded states.

4) Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC to verify the DTC does not reset. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data.

Circuit/System Testing

1) Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the appropriate Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve.

2) Ignition OFF and all vehicle systems OFF. It may take up to 2 minutes for all vehicle systems to power down. Test for less than 5 Ω between the low reference circuit terminal B and ground.
⇒ If greater than the specified value, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

Note: A test lamp must be used for this test. The control circuit is pulled-up to a low current voltage, a voltage on the control circuit is normal.

3) Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp does not illuminate between the control circuit terminal A and ground.
⇒ If the test lamp illuminates, test the control circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

4) Connect the DMM black lead to the control circuit terminal A. Connect the DMM red lead to B+. Set the DMM on the diode setting. Command the CMP actuator solenoid ON and OFF with a scan tool. The DMM should transition from 2.5-3.5 V when commanded OFF to less than 1 V when commanded ON.
⇒ If the circuit voltage does not correspond to the specified values, test the control circuit for an open/high resistance or a short to ground. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

5) Remove the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve. Verify the following conditions do not exist with the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve:
• Torn, restricted, mis-positioned, or missing screens at the CMP actuator solenoid

• Engine oil leak between the oil sealing lands of the CMP actuator solenoid. Inspect the lands of the CMP actuator solenoid for nicks.

• Oil seepage at the CMP actuator solenoid connector

⇒ If a condition is found, replace Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve.

6) Ignition OFF, swap the appropriate Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve with a Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve that is operating correctly.

7) Engine idling. Command the appropriate Camshaft Position Actuator from 0 degrees to 20 degrees and back to zero while observing the appropriate scan tool Camshaft Position Variance parameters. The Camshaft Position Variance should be less than 2 degrees in each of the commanded states.
⇒ If greater than the specified value, replace the mechanical camshaft position actuator.

8) If all circuits/connections test normal, test or replace the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve.

Component Testing

1) Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve.

2) Test for 8-12 Ω between the control terminal A and the low reference circuit terminal B of the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve.
⇒ If not within the specified range, replace the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve.

3) Test for infinite resistance between each terminal and the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve housing.
⇒ If not the specified value, replace the Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve.

Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification after completing the diagnostic procedure.

• Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Valve Replacement

• Camshaft Position Exhaust Actuator Replacement

• Camshaft Position Intake Actuator Replacement

• Control Module References for replacement, programming, and setup
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