Author Topic: Help! Running rich after New GT 2871 and DDM tune (Read 49583 times)

miller11386 · « **Reply #75 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:59:25 AM »

But the only way to fix it is to have a HPT.

Hopefully dave will be around when I call him at lunch. We can try to work it out from there.....

spicy3480 · « **Reply #76 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:12:10 AM »

Elff and I will be having 2871 turbo's put on at the mod meet in less than 2 weeks...I am guessing that Dave will be doing the tuning by datalogging with HP Tuners when we run on the dyno (which he is bringing). I am guessing that Dave will get some great information to compare your logs to from that, which might help pinpoint the issue.

Critterman · « **Reply #77 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:14:06 AM »

Which is a very good reason, to put your car on a trailer and bringing it down

SKY888 · « **Reply #78 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:23:14 AM »

Trust me on this.......THIS WILL NOT BE THE FIRST AND LAST ISSUE THAT YOU WILL HAVE ON YOUR CAR.

Once you modify your car, it is more susceptible to issues.......compared to a stock car. Especially if you don't want to bring your car to the dealership due to warranty issues............having a data logger will be more convenient and ideal for you.

Spend the money now with HPTuner software.......

so if you have another issues down the road...you can just send logs and info to DDM and it will be easier for them to pinpoint what's going on.
Then they can just email you a revised tune....and you can download the tune yourself using hptuner.

it might cost you $400 now....but it will be a helpful tool for you in the long run.......than having your car down for a few weeks, since you're trying to find out what's wrong...and you can't give any info to your MAIN TUNER.

spicy3480 · « **Reply #79 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:25:05 AM »

I have the HP Tuners software as well and it has been very helpful, even with the stock turbo...it was worth the investment!!

Critterman · « **Reply #80 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:26:43 AM »

HPTuners is a tool and if you have a specially tuned car, a tool that needs to be in your toolbox. You don't need to know how to tune, you just need to know how to run a data log, email it, and install the tune you get back. If the tuner is expection your log, you can have it back on the road in 10 minutes.

But without a log, ............................................

miller11386 · « **Reply #81 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:38:55 AM »

Quote from: Critterman on May 17, 2011, 09:14:06 AM

Which is a very good reason, to put your car on a trailer and bringing it down

Again to re-iterate, there is not going to be time to play with my car at the mod meet. I'm going to say that DDM's plate is already full with doing the 2 turbo swaps.

I will be talking to Dave to see what he thinks I need to do.

elff · « **Reply #82 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:52:43 AM »

http://www.plxkiwi.com/kiwiwifi/hardware.html
Supported apps
http://www.plxkiwi.com/kiwiwifi/software.html

I prefer Dashcommand. It has excellent Logging capablilities.
I also Own Rev but prefer Dashcommand for the logging.

Critterman · « **Reply #83 on:** May 17, 2011, 10:35:28 AM »

It's up to you. But I would call and confirm that there won't be time to datalog your car send the tune out, and put the new tune in. Anyone with HPTUNERS, 08 SKY Redline credits can datalog your car and install the returned tune. I don't have any credits left or I would offer to do it.

dengel · « **Reply #84 on:** May 17, 2011, 10:52:00 AM »

Quote from: miller11386 on May 17, 2011, 09:38:55 AM

Again to re-iterate, there is not going to be time to play with my car at the mod meet. I'm going to say that DDM's plate is already full with doing the 2 turbo swaps.

I will be talking to Dave to see what he thinks I need to do.

Chris, I have a two hour slot reserved on Sunday morning (10am to 12pm) for DDM to install the brake kit on my car.

If you need it, I can give up my slot for them to look at your car. I do know someone locally that can install the brakes, but I just haven't gotten a chance to get it done up here, and was going for the convenience of getting it done at the mod meet.

Talk to Dave and let him know that I would clear my timeslot to give you the two hours. I just don't know if that would be enough time for them to look at your car.

Let me know what Dave says, as I won't bother carting the brake kit down to MD with me if your gonna use my timeslot.

miller11386 · « **Reply #85 on:** May 17, 2011, 10:55:11 AM »

Send the tune out?

Im pretty sure if dave is bringing his dyno that he will also bring his HPT interface.

He would edit then and there. However I am still pretty sure Elff and spicy would be a bit upset if my car is there for hours when they planned to get their cars done.

miller11386 · « **Reply #86 on:** May 17, 2011, 10:57:26 AM »

Quote from: dengel on May 17, 2011, 10:52:00 AM

Chris, I have a two hour slot reserved on Sunday morning (10am to 12pm) for DDM to install the brake kit on my car.

If you need it, I can give up my slot for them to look at your car. I do know someone locally that can install the brakes, but I just haven't gotten a chance to get it done up here, and was going for the convenience of getting it done at the mod meet.

Talk to Dave and let him know that I would clear my timeslot to give you the two hours. I just don't know if that would be enough time for them to look at your car.

Let me know what Dave says, as I won't bother carting the brake kit down to MD with me if your gonna use my timeslot.

Arent you such a sweetheart! But I cant take your slot from you!

I don't know how long the repair would take. Hence why i don't want to eat up time at the meet.

It will either be an easy fix once i get a log, or it will be a monster of a problem. And if its something like a sensor, we may not know for days.

Id prefer to log it here at home and work on it that way.

Arabas · « **Reply #87 on:** May 17, 2011, 11:08:57 AM »

Quote from: dengel on May 17, 2011, 10:52:00 AM

Chris, I have a two hour slot reserved on Sunday morning (10am to 12pm) for DDM to install the brake kit on my car.

If you need it, I can give up my slot for them to look at your car. I do know someone locally that can install the brakes, but I just haven't gotten a chance to get it done up here, and was going for the convenience of getting it done at the mod meet.

Talk to Dave and let him know that I would clear my timeslot to give you the two hours. I just don't know if that would be enough time for them to look at your car.

Let me know what Dave says, as I won't bother carting the brake kit down to MD with me if your gonna use my timeslot.

That's very generous of you!!!

but i agree with Miller, that if the diagnosis takes too long, it will completely destroy the time plan for all...
Miller, one way, try to find a way to log it in cooperation with DDM asap. IMHO going to the meet is more than solving this problem, it will be a blast for you!
furthermore, you got a chance of solving the problem as well. who knows, maybe DDM guys suffer from insomnia...

or maybe someone else there can take a look at your car..

miller11386 · « **Reply #88 on:** May 17, 2011, 11:24:10 AM »

Well for example, if there is an issue with a MAP sensor, there is at least a 2 day wait for another one.

Then I would have pretty much went all the way down there just to haul it back broken.

I need some preliminary logs. Then if everything seems in order, and DDM agrees to have me, I will bring the car.

I would MUCH rather just enjoy the drive my perfectly tuned sky out and enjoy helping everyone get their projects done at the meet!

Critterman · « **Reply #89 on:** May 17, 2011, 01:05:19 PM »

I'm not trying to set Dave's schedule for him, but you really need to talk to him and discuse what was said here and see what would be best. If it is a part, you could more than likely borrow one from a fellow KAPPA for testing.

No one is trying to tell you what to do, we are trying to help you get your car fixed.

miller11386 · « **Reply #90 on:** May 17, 2011, 01:51:53 PM »

Talked to dave.

He wants me to drive it and see if i get any codes. I guess that is what I will do, while keeping an eye on the fuel economy.

miller11386 · « **Reply #91 on:** May 18, 2011, 07:48:39 AM »

Threw the same P2195 code on the way home yesterday.

Got home, cleared the code and Tightened the O2 sensor. Got about half a turn on it compared to where it was. However I did not see any improvement on the running rich condition. It is not throwing a rich code, just the same 13.2 AFR at idle.

I am driving the car again today to try to reproduce the code. If I can, I think I have my problem sensor/leak

If the code pops up on the way home today, the car will be going to get checked out for gasket issues and wiring issues with the O2 sensor. I have already replaced the sensor itself, and saw no improvement in the rich condition.

I am hunting for an interface (near me) that will read O2 voltage/output on the stock wideband. Would most scanners do this? I plan to go to see my private mechanic sometime today to try to diagnose this issue. He has a basic scanner (not sure of the brand) but I hope it will tell me the sensors position. I am thinking maybe it could have a damaged wire causing it to short and read "full lean" at all times. This would explain my rich condition, and why my secondary AFR is still reading rich (when it is only an inch from the stock wideband). It would also explain why the car runs great when I reset the ECU and the condition returns as I drive the car.

Thanks again for everyone taking the time to bear with me on this slow diagnosis and continue reading / suggesting things.

Critterman · « **Reply #92 on:** May 18, 2011, 10:17:10 AM »

You will need a scanner that can do datalogging. Dashhawk can do this, the Ultra gauge (around 70 bucks) can monitor but not log. HPtuners will do it, I think some of the top end scanners will as well.

miller11386 · « **Reply #93 on:** May 18, 2011, 05:46:29 PM »

Logs anyone? Finally got a logger... here is a log from cruise at 65mph in 5th gear. I only have the logger for the day, so if I need a different log, please tell me!

2008 Saturn SKY X = 2.0

I/M Monitors

Since DTCs Cleared

Misfire Monitor ok
Fuel System Mon ok
Comp Component ok
Catalyst Mon inc
Htd Catalyst n/a
Evap System Mon inc
Sec Air System n/a
A/C Refrig Mon n/a
Oxygen Sens Mon inc
Oxygen Sens Htr inc
EGR System Mon n/a

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This Drive Cycle

Misfire Monitor ok
Fuel System Mon ok
Comp Component ok
Catalyst Mon ok
Htd Catalyst n/a
Evap System Mon n/a
Sec Air System n/a
A/C Refrig Mon n/a
Oxygen Sens Mon inc
Oxygen Sens Htr n/a
EGR System Mon n/a

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DTCs (Codes)

No Codes Found

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State OBD Check

MIL Status OFF
Codes Found 1
Monitors OK 3
Monitors Inc 0
Monitors N/A 8

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Record Data

FRAME: 0 TM: 0.0

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 35.3
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2254
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 51.0
MAF(LB/M) 2.52
MAP("HG) 20.4
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 199
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 24.0
ST FTRM1(%) 1.6
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 45.5
ABS FRP(PSI) 768.70
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 21.6
THROT CMD(%) 31.0
ABS TPS B(%) 35.7
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1269
EVAP PURGE(%) 93.0
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.435
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.785
EQ RATIO11 0.905
O2S11(mA) -12.031
CLR DIST(mi) 26
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 14.229
ENG RUN(m:s) 32:49
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 1 TM: 4.6

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 35.3
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2249
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 51.0
MAF(LB/M) 2.56
MAP("HG) 20.7
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 199
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 24.0
ST FTRM1(%) 2.3
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 47.8
ABS FRP(PSI) 786.10
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 22.0
THROT CMD(%) 32.2
ABS TPS B(%) 36.5
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1273
EVAP PURGE(%) 96.1
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.265
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.765
EQ RATIO11 0.893
O2S11(mA) -11.656
CLR DIST(mi) 26
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 13.923
ENG RUN(m:s) 32:54
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 2 TM: 9.3

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 36.1
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2253
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 53.7
MAF(LB/M) 2.71
MAP("HG) 21.3
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 199
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 24.0
ST FTRM1(%) 3.1
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 44.3
ABS FRP(PSI) 761.45
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 21.2
THROT CMD(%) 30.2
ABS TPS B(%) 35.3
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1273
EVAP PURGE(%) 84.3
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.509
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.815
EQ RATIO11 0.885
O2S11(mA) -14.656
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 13.829
ENG RUN(m:s) 32:58
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 3 TM: 14.0

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 34.5
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2258
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 45.9
MAF(LB/M) 2.26
MAP("HG) 18.3
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 26.0
ST FTRM1(%) 1.6
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 40.8
ABS FRP(PSI) 748.39
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 20.4
THROT CMD(%) 29.4
ABS TPS B(%) 34.5
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1273
EVAP PURGE(%) 85.1
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.411
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.800
EQ RATIO11 0.902
O2S11(mA) -13.500
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 14.088
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:03
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 4 TM: 18.7

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 34.9
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2255
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 49.8
MAF(LB/M) 2.45
MAP("HG) 19.2
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 24.5
ST FTRM1(%) 1.6
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 44.3
ABS FRP(PSI) 751.30
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 21.2
THROT CMD(%) 30.2
ABS TPS B(%) 35.3
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1273
EVAP PURGE(%) 84.3
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.387
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.775
EQ RATIO11 0.898
O2S11(mA) -13.031
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 13.900
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:08
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 5 TM: 23.4

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 33.3
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2261
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 41.2
MAF(LB/M) 2.06
MAP("HG) 16.8
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 27.5
ST FTRM1(%) 3.9
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 39.6
ABS FRP(PSI) 744.04
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 20.4
THROT CMD(%) 29.8
ABS TPS B(%) 34.9
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1271
EVAP PURGE(%) 88.6
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.460
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.815
EQ RATIO11 0.912
O2S11(mA) -14.438
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 13.711
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:12
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 6 TM: 28.1

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 34.5
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2263
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 44.7
MAF(LB/M) 2.13
MAP("HG) 17.7
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 199
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 27.5
ST FTRM1(%) 2.3
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 38.0
ABS FRP(PSI) 739.69
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 20.0
THROT CMD(%) 29.4
ABS TPS B(%) 34.5
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1270
EVAP PURGE(%) 87.1
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.534
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.820
EQ RATIO11 0.898
O2S11(mA) -11.688
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 14.112
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:17
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 7 TM: 32.8

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 36.1
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2242
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 56.9
MAF(LB/M) 2.89
MAP("HG) 22.7
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 199
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 22.5
ST FTRM1(%) 3.9
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 54.1
ABS FRP(PSI) 823.81
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 23.1
THROT CMD(%) 33.7
ABS TPS B(%) 37.3
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1274
EVAP PURGE(%) 94.9
EVAP VP(H2O) -3.333
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.800
EQ RATIO11 0.909
O2S11(mA) -11.313
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 14.182
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:22
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 8 TM: 37.5

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 36.9
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2252
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 59.6
MAF(LB/M) 3.00
MAP("HG) 23.0
OUT TEMP(°F) 55
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 23.0
ST FTRM1(%) 3.9
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 51.0
ABS FRP(PSI) 807.86
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 22.4
THROT CMD(%) 32.6
ABS TPS B(%) 36.9
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1278
EVAP PURGE(%) 95.3
EVAP VP(H2O) -3.578
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.795
EQ RATIO11 0.890
O2S11(mA) -12.063
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 14.182
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:26
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 9 TM: 42.2

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 36.9
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2249
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 61.6
MAF(LB/M) 3.14
MAP("HG) 23.3
OUT TEMP(°F) 55
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 22.5
ST FTRM1(%) 3.1
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 53.7
ABS FRP(PSI) 813.66
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 22.7
THROT CMD(%) 32.9
ABS TPS B(%) 36.9
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1284
EVAP PURGE(%) 95.7
EVAP VP(H2O) -3.554
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.800
EQ RATIO11 0.889
O2S11(mA) -14.188
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 13.923
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:31
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 10 TM: 46.9

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 35.7
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2257
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 52.6
MAF(LB/M) 2.64
MAP("HG) 21.0
OUT TEMP(°F) 55
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 24.0
ST FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 47.1
ABS FRP(PSI) 768.70
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 21.6
THROT CMD(%) 31.0
ABS TPS B(%) 35.7
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1283
EVAP PURGE(%) 94.1
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.338
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.810
EQ RATIO11 0.898
O2S11(mA) -12.219
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 54.1
VPWR(V) 14.206
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:36
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 11 TM: 51.6

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 33.7
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2266
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 42.0
MAF(LB/M) 2.04
MAP("HG) 16.8
OUT TEMP(°F) 55
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 29.0
ST FTRM1(%) 2.3
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 65
ABS LOAD(%) 34.5
ABS FRP(PSI) 719.39
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 18.4
THROT CMD(%) 27.1
ABS TPS B(%) 32.9
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1282
EVAP PURGE(%) 83.5
EVAP VP(H2O) -4.559
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.765
EQ RATIO11 0.900
O2S11(mA) -12.781
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 53.3
VPWR(V) 13.994
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:40
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 12 TM: 56.3

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 32.9
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2265
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 39.6
MAF(LB/M) 1.92
MAP("HG) 20.7
OUT TEMP(°F) 55
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 13.5
ST FTRM1(%) 4.7
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 66
ABS LOAD(%) 119.6
ABS FRP(PSI) 2153.81
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 69.0
THROT CMD(%) 100.0
ABS TPS B(%) 83.9
ACC POS D(%) 79.2
ACC POS E(%) 78.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1299
EVAP PURGE(%) 49.8
EVAP VP(H2O) 0.073
CMD EQ RAT 0.971
O2S12(V) 0.710
EQ RATIO11 0.887
O2S11(mA) -16.000
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 53.3
VPWR(V) 13.994
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:45
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 13 TM: 61.0

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 83.1
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2557
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 100.0
MAF(LB/M) 11.52
MAP("HG) 46.4
OUT TEMP(°F) 55
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 3.0
ST FTRM1(%) 18.0
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 77
ABS LOAD(%) 185.9
ABS FRP(PSI) 2153.81
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 69.4
THROT CMD(%) 100.0
ABS TPS B(%) 83.9
ACC POS D(%) 72.9
ACC POS E(%) 72.2
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1358
EVAP PURGE(%) 49.8
EVAP VP(H2O) -0.172
CMD EQ RAT 0.929
O2S12(V) 0.835
EQ RATIO11 0.921
O2S11(mA) -10.000
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 53.3
VPWR(V) 14.206
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:50
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 14 TM: 65.7

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 27.8
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2770
BARO PRS("HG) 28.3
CALC LOAD(%) 18.4
MAF(LB/M) 3.81
MAP("HG) 7.4
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 199
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 4.5
ST FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 78
ABS LOAD(%) 16.1
ABS FRP(PSI) 754.20
FUEL SYS 1 OPEN1
FUEL SYS 2 OPEN1
REL TPS(%) 13.7
THROT CMD(%) 20.0
ABS TPS B(%) 27.8
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1362
EVAP PURGE(%) 0.0
EVAP VP(H2O) 0.048
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.045
EQ RATIO11 0.968
O2S11(mA) -3.250
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 53.3
VPWR(V) 13.970
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:55
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 15 TM: 70.4

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 27.1
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2584
BARO PRS("HG) 28.6
CALC LOAD(%) 17.6
MAF(LB/M) 1.12
MAP("HG) 7.4
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 199
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 4.5
ST FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 73
ABS LOAD(%) 16.5
ABS FRP(PSI) 600.46
FUEL SYS 1 OPEN1
FUEL SYS 2 OPEN1
REL TPS(%) 12.9
THROT CMD(%) 18.8
ABS TPS B(%) 27.1
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1352
EVAP PURGE(%) 0.0
EVAP VP(H2O) 0.048
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.030
EQ RATIO11 1.039
O2S11(mA) 5.031
CLR DIST(mi) 27
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 53.3
VPWR(V) 13.947
ENG RUN(m:s) 33:59
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 16 TM: 75.1

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 26.3
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2418
BARO PRS("HG) 28.6
CALC LOAD(%) 17.6
MAF(LB/M) 1.04
MAP("HG) 7.4
OUT TEMP(°F) 52
COOLANT(°F) 198
IAT(°F) 59
IGN ADV(°) 3.0
ST FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 68
ABS LOAD(%) 16.5
ABS FRP(PSI) 562.75
FUEL SYS 1 OPEN1
FUEL SYS 2 OPEN1
REL TPS(%) 12.2
THROT CMD(%) 18.0
ABS TPS B(%) 26.3
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 1341
EVAP PURGE(%) 0.0
EVAP VP(H2O) -0.025
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.020
EQ RATIO11 1.075
O2S11(mA) 7.313
CLR DIST(mi) 28
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 53.3
VPWR(V) 14.182
ENG RUN(m:s) 34:04
OBD2 STAT CA

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O2 Monitor Tests

Vehicle did not return data for any O2
Monitor Tests

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Diag Monitor Tests

Vehicle did not return data for any
Diagnostic Monitor Tests.

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Vehicle Information

VIN

#1 MOD $10: 3D7KU28664G106199

CVN

#1 MOD $10: 45 77 00 00

CAL ID

#1 MOD $10: 15235133AJ

=====================

Modules Present

Module $10: VPW

miller11386 · « **Reply #94 on:** May 18, 2011, 05:49:29 PM »

I will say I have been consistently throwing the P2195 O2 sensor stuck lean code for some time. I cleared it just before I drove home.

I was crusing at 65mph for the first few frames, then stood on it and let off toward the end.... hopefully someone can read these better than I can!

Critterman · « **Reply #95 on:** May 18, 2011, 05:49:38 PM »

Can that be saved into a running log file with display on a scale?

miller11386 · « **Reply #96 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:03:51 PM »

unfortunately its a basic scanner... so I dont think so

miller11386 · « **Reply #97 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:05:35 PM »

I am curious why my O2 sensor is jumping from + to - mA readings... is that remotely normal?

miller11386 · « **Reply #98 on:** May 18, 2011, 07:28:35 PM »

Another log. this one is from Idle

2008 Saturn SKY X = 2.0

I/M Monitors

Since DTCs Cleared

Misfire Monitor ok
Fuel System Mon ok
Comp Component ok
Catalyst Mon inc
Htd Catalyst n/a
Evap System Mon inc
Sec Air System n/a
A/C Refrig Mon n/a
Oxygen Sens Mon inc
Oxygen Sens Htr inc
EGR System Mon n/a

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This Drive Cycle

Misfire Monitor ok
Fuel System Mon ok
Comp Component ok
Catalyst Mon ok
Htd Catalyst n/a
Evap System Mon n/a
Sec Air System n/a
A/C Refrig Mon n/a
Oxygen Sens Mon inc
Oxygen Sens Htr n/a
EGR System Mon n/a

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DTCs (Codes)

No Codes Found

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State OBD Check

MIL Status OFF
Codes Found 1
Monitors OK 3
Monitors Inc 0
Monitors N/A 8

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Record Data

FRAME: 0 TM: 0.0

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 16.9
ENG SPEED(RPM) 849
BARO PRS("HG) 28.6
CALC LOAD(%) 16.5
MAF(LB/M) 0.33
MAP("HG) 9.4
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 160
IAT(°F) 82
IGN ADV(°) 7.5
ST FTRM1(%) 29.7
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 0
ABS LOAD(%) 14.9
ABS FRP(PSI) 668.62
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 2.7
THROT CMD(%) 4.3
ABS TPS B(%) 17.3
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 400
EVAP PURGE(%) 0.0
EVAP VP(H2O) 0.000
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.440
EQ RATIO11 1.021
O2S11(mA) 1.563
CLR DIST(mi) 41
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 52.6
VPWR(V) 14.300
ENG RUN(m:s) 02:23
OBD2 STAT CA

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FRAME: 1 TM: 4.7

MIL STATUS Off
ABSLT TPS(%) 16.9
ENG SPEED(RPM) 844
BARO PRS("HG) 28.6
CALC LOAD(%) 16.1
MAF(LB/M) 0.34
MAP("HG) 9.4
OUT TEMP(°F) 54
COOLANT(°F) 160
IAT(°F) 82
IGN ADV(°) 6.5
ST FTRM1(%) 29.7
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
LT SEC FT1(%) -7.0
LT SEC FT3(%) -7.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 0
ABS LOAD(%) 15.3
ABS FRP(PSI) 556.94
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD1
FUEL SYS 2 CLSD1
REL TPS(%) 2.7
THROT CMD(%) 4.3
ABS TPS B(%) 17.3
ACC POS D(%) 18.8
ACC POS E(%) 18.4
CAT TEMP11(°F) 403
EVAP PURGE(%) 0.0
EVAP VP(H2O) 0.000
CMD EQ RAT 0.999
O2S12(V) 0.440
EQ RATIO11 1.002
O2S11(mA) 0.375
CLR DIST(mi) 41
CLR TRPS 0
MIL DIST(mi) 0
FUEL LEVEL(%) 52.6
VPWR(V) 14.253
ENG RUN(m:s) 02:27
OBD2 STAT CA

=====================

O2 Monitor Tests

Vehicle did not return data for any O2
Monitor Tests

=====================

Diag Monitor Tests

Vehicle did not return data for any
Diagnostic Monitor Tests.

=====================

Vehicle Information

VIN

#1 MOD $10: 3D7KU28664G106199

CVN

#1 MOD $10: 45 77 00 00

CAL ID

#1 MOD $10: 15235133AJ

=====================

Modules Present

Module $10: VPW

miller11386 · « **Reply #99 on:** May 18, 2011, 07:51:52 PM »

Here is the data cleaned up and put in excel. (Thanks Di!)

http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/attachments/f5/40499d1305762597-car-running-rich-has-code-p2195-sky-logs-sm.bmp

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