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Author Topic: Let's Talk F1  (Read 310016 times)

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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3725 on: December 12, 2021, 09:23:20 PM »
Absolutely, Max deserves the win, I tip my hat to the FIA for doing the right thing for the fans, thank you.
I also think that Hamilton and all the drivers behave very professionally after the race.
P?rez did a great job it was to bad the car had to be retired, he deserve the 3rd place podium.
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3726 on: December 12, 2021, 10:15:07 PM »
MB once again shot themselves in the foot.  RB has just made better decisions time and time again.
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3727 on: December 12, 2021, 11:49:27 PM »
Not sure what to think of that.  I'm not a Max or Ham fan so I guess I don't really care who won.  Just wish the FIA didn't seem so keystone cop-ish.

Why didn't Merc go for a pit?  That's their own fault.
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3728 on: December 13, 2021, 11:42:42 AM »
MB filed a double protest based on two different rules that the said were not followed.  The stewards rejected both.  It could still go to civil court.  All that aside, it was a great season.  The last two races were exceptional, it just a shame that FIA decisions were so involved in the outcome of both. 
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3729 on: December 13, 2021, 12:06:14 PM »
It's like the start of the race with Ham going off track cutting a corner and then coming back but not giving up the position.  FIA said he gave back the advantage but did he?

I have never quite understood the lapped cars can unlap themselves at the end of a yellow rule.  The leaders that have already passed them had to deal with them slowing down the race and then if the race is long enough they will have to do it again?  Why?  Max got like a 14 second gift with the yellow and that unlap rule.
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3730 on: December 15, 2021, 02:26:52 AM »
It's like the start of the race with Ham going off track cutting a corner and then coming back but not giving up the position.  FIA said he gave back the advantage but did he?

I have never quite understood the lapped cars can unlap themselves at the end of a yellow rule.  The leaders that have already passed them had to deal with them slowing down the race and then if the race is long enough they will have to do it again?  Why?  Max got like a 14 second gift with the yellow and that unlap rule.

The part I don?t get is why only SOME of the lapped cars got to unlap themselves?  I don?t understand how that is fair?
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3731 on: December 15, 2021, 12:03:45 PM »
Exactly, either all lapped cars should have passed or none should have passed.  Only the ones between Max and Ham makes it look like something wasn't on the level.
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3732 on: December 15, 2021, 12:40:12 PM »
The Sporting regs for un lapping cars is to make sure they do not interfere with the cars going for the win.
There is room purposely left open to the racing director to do what he did, and the FIA backed that decision.

Furthermore, before this race, the teams were asked specifically about this situation and both Red Bull and MB flat out stated they did not want this race to end under a yellow flag

So Masi gave them exactly what they asked and agreed to, and stayed within the rules. 

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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3733 on: December 15, 2021, 02:14:06 PM »
In that case even more reason MB should have changed tires.
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3734 on: December 15, 2021, 04:26:09 PM »
Yup

Basically TOTO should look at himself and his strategist and say
We :censor: ed up

Hamilton asked for tires 3 times and they denied him

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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3735 on: December 15, 2021, 04:35:00 PM »
The odd part of their strategy being Max's tires were older then Hams so they knew Max was going to want new tires.  And if Max didn't go for the tires after MB made the change they would have still had the advantage because a pit under yellow was about 15 sec so taking the pit would have put Ham and Max about even on the track.
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Re: Let's Talk F1
« Reply #3736 on: December 15, 2021, 05:30:04 PM »
AND if Ham had pitted Max wouldn't have, reversing the tire situation and their position on the track.  Ham would have been chasing Max on old tires.
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