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New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« on: November 01, 2012, 12:59:38 PM »
They said it couldn't be done -  :lol:

New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine is now available!!!



After a couple in years in development we are proud to officially release our new 2.4L LNF Stroker engine!  The goal behind this engine was to create a more broad midrange and usable power range for customers whether it is an automatic stock turbo street car to a big turbo race engine!

The WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker long block engine assembly comes standard with the following services and components -

Cylinder Head -

WERKSracing high rpm single valve springs
WERKSracing MLS head gasket
WERKSracing high strength timing chain tensioner
ARP head stud kit
New GM valves, seals, direct injectors and high pressure fuel pump
New GM camshafts, cam gear phasers, cam solenoids and timing chain and guides

Short Block -

WERKSracing balanced 2.4L rotating assembly
WERKSracing/Wiseco Forged LNF turbo pistons
WERKSracing/Carillo custom Forged A-Beam connecting rods
New GM main and rod bearings
New GM oil pickup, water pump, seals and oil pump/front cover
New GM Timing chain and balance shaft guides, balance shafts, tensioner and balance shaft chain.
New oil filter

Customize and purchase your WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker Engine Here - http://www.performanceautowerks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1930

Currently we have it added to our site as a long block option only but we also offer it as a short block as well, contact me for details and pricing on that option please.



Below is a dyno chart of an Automatic Kappa with the basic bolt ons running 91 octane fuel -


« Last Edit: November 02, 2012, 05:28:04 PM by werks »
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WERKS MAX Power Solstice GXP LNF - "50 Trim" WERKs turbo - 109 Octane - 415whp/428ftlbs
Anthony's SKY Redline LNF - GT35R - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 442whp/414ftlbs
Ricky's Solstice LE5 '50 trim" WERKS turbo - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 374whp/358ftlbs
Matt's Cobalt SS LNF Billet 55/57 WERKs turbo - 93 Octane - 442whp/450ftlbs
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 01:30:19 PM »
So is this a 2.0 LNF engine modded to make it a 2.4 or is this actually a modded 2.4 LE5?  What block do you start with?
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 02:19:27 PM »
+1 to that... :pop:
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 02:21:18 PM »
It's a stroker kit for the 2.0L raising displacement to 2.4.  If it were a stroker kit for the 2.4, the displacement would be higher.

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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 03:41:35 PM »
So, what are the performance curves like starting in standard tune, GM Performance and standard ECM? What's the baseline data and what do you get just doing the stroker upgrade?

Randy

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 07:14:36 PM »
It's a stroker kit for the 2.0L raising displacement to 2.4.  If it were a stroker kit for the 2.4, the displacement would be higher.
I totally understand what stroker means and thus the:

"WERKSracing balanced 2.4L rotating assembly"

which means where the 2.0 has a forged crank the 2.4 has the cast one which is weaker.  If you take a 2.0 block which was supposed to have thicker castings for strength and bore it oversized it is now weaker too.  So if you take the 2.0 and do all that to it why not just take a 2.4 and put the LNF head on it so you can make it DI?

That's the reasoning behind my original question.

If it were a stroker kit for the 2.4 you couldn't run the 2.4 rotating assembly as the only stroking going on would have little to do with the engine.
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 07:37:42 AM »
Wish you guys did something like this for the 2.4 LE5 :-)
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 09:09:28 AM »
DDM builds 2.4's
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New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 09:38:18 AM »
Nice critter!  Advertising for another vendor right in this vendors thread.

Do the thinner walls of the cylinder pose any problems with the 20-25# of boost many are running?  What about the larger turbos?  Do the sleeves take care of that?
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 10:42:43 AM »
Are the Middle 2 pistons extra?
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Couldn't resist.  I know they are simply not visible in the pic
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 01:51:27 PM »
Are the Middle 2 pistons extra?
 :poke:
Couldn't resist.  I know they are simply not visible in the pic
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 05:18:26 PM »
So is this a 2.0 LNF engine modded to make it a 2.4 or is this actually a modded 2.4 LE5?  What block do you start with?

We START with a 2.0L LNF block and bore it out for the 88mm pistons.  We can do the exact same thing, minus the boring of course, to a 2.4L LE5 block.

Wish you guys did something like this for the 2.4 LE5 :-)

We have built our first 2.4L Kappa engine in 2005 on a nearly new vehicle!!!  Was DDM working on Kappas then???  :)
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WERKS MAX Power Solstice GXP LNF - "50 Trim" WERKs turbo - 109 Octane - 415whp/428ftlbs
Anthony's SKY Redline LNF - GT35R - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 442whp/414ftlbs
Ricky's Solstice LE5 '50 trim" WERKS turbo - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 374whp/358ftlbs
Matt's Cobalt SS LNF Billet 55/57 WERKs turbo - 93 Octane - 442whp/450ftlbs
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 05:23:06 PM »
Nice critter!  Advertising for another vendor right in this vendors thread.

Do the thinner walls of the cylinder pose any problems with the 20-25# of boost many are running?  What about the larger turbos?  Do the sleeves take care of that?

We have not seen any issues running high boost and the slightly thinner sleeves.  What kills sleeves in general is poor tuning, detonation and overly rich conditions on LNFs which we have seen many times even on stock sleeves...
Dave Gilbert
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WERKS MAX Power Solstice GXP LNF - "50 Trim" WERKs turbo - 109 Octane - 415whp/428ftlbs
Anthony's SKY Redline LNF - GT35R - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 442whp/414ftlbs
Ricky's Solstice LE5 '50 trim" WERKS turbo - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 374whp/358ftlbs
Matt's Cobalt SS LNF Billet 55/57 WERKs turbo - 93 Octane - 442whp/450ftlbs
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 05:28:33 PM »
Below is a dyno chart of an Automatic Kappa with the basic bolt ons running 91 octane fuel -




So, what are the performance curves like starting in standard tune, GM Performance and standard ECM? What's the baseline data and what do you get just doing the stroker upgrade?

Randy

Inquiring minds want to know.
Dave Gilbert
Performance Autowerks, Inc.
Phone - 815-439-4547
Fax - 815-439-6751
WERKS MAX Power Solstice GXP LNF - "50 Trim" WERKs turbo - 109 Octane - 415whp/428ftlbs
Anthony's SKY Redline LNF - GT35R - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 442whp/414ftlbs
Ricky's Solstice LE5 '50 trim" WERKS turbo - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 374whp/358ftlbs
Matt's Cobalt SS LNF Billet 55/57 WERKs turbo - 93 Octane - 442whp/450ftlbs
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 06:20:38 PM »
What mods are on that car?

I see you posted your other built engines.
Don't all Lnf's that get Wiseco pistons end up being 2.1's to fit the wisecos?
So in effect, they all get a little stroked
which makes their owners Stoked to get the new engine {See what I did there} :D

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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2012, 07:02:41 PM »
What mods are on that car?

I see you posted your other built engines.
Don't all Lnf's that get Wiseco pistons end up being 2.1's to fit the wisecos?
So in effect, they all get a little stroked
which makes their owners Stoked to get the new engine {See what I did there} :D

Mods were 3" downpipe with cat, 3" exhaust Front mount intercooler K&N panel filter.

Wiseco makes Stock bore size LNF pistons as well so unless you get the 88mm oversized versions you don't get stroked automatically ;)
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WERKS MAX Power Solstice GXP LNF - "50 Trim" WERKs turbo - 109 Octane - 415whp/428ftlbs
Anthony's SKY Redline LNF - GT35R - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 442whp/414ftlbs
Ricky's Solstice LE5 '50 trim" WERKS turbo - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 374whp/358ftlbs
Matt's Cobalt SS LNF Billet 55/57 WERKs turbo - 93 Octane - 442whp/450ftlbs
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2012, 07:36:50 PM »
What mods are on that car?

I see you posted your other built engines.
Don't all Lnf's that get Wiseco pistons end up being 2.1's to fit the wisecos?
So in effect, they all get a little stroked
which makes their owners Stoked to get the new engine {See what I did there} :D

Yep you almost pulled a Critter but saved it right at the end by making it look like a joke.
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2012, 07:37:00 PM »
But still Stoked
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2012, 07:58:00 PM »
Are the Middle 2 pistons extra?
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Couldn't resist.  I know they are simply not visible in the pic
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No, there actually extra.  :thumbs:
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2012, 08:00:12 PM »
Nice critter!  Advertising for another vendor right in this vendors thread.

Do the thinner walls of the cylinder pose any problems with the 20-25# of boost many are running?  What about the larger turbos?  Do the sleeves take care of that?

Is this a critterism or a whole new category?  :idk:
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2012, 08:05:15 PM »
Factory Ecotec 2.0 block= 86mm bore X 86mm stroke   2.0L or 1998cc or 122cid
Factory Ecotec 2.2 block= 86mm bore X 94.6mm stroke   2.2L or 2198cc or 134cid
Factory Ecotec 2.4 block = 88mm bore X 98mm stroke   2.4L or 2384cc or 145cid  (Largest bore and stroke in a Ecotec Generation 2)

Ecotec 2.0 block with +2 bore (88mm) standard (86mm) stroke = 88mm bore X 86mm stroke   2.1L or 2092cc or 128cid
Ecotec 2.0 block with +2 bore (88mm) 98mm stroker = 88mm bore X 98mm stroke   2.4L or 2384cc or 145cid
Ecotec 2.2 block with +2 bore (88mm) standard (94.6mm) stroke = 88mm bore X 94.6mm stroke   2.3L or 2301cc or 140cid
Ecotec 2.2 block with +2 bore (88mm) 98mm stroker = 88mm bore X 98mm stroke   2.4L or 2384cc or 145cid

Sorry 2.4L guys no over bore or stroker... unless you figure some elite custom option, like journal grinding or customer pistons or crank.

Let us know if you do, cause I'm interested!!!

Talk to the DSM guys, we figured this stuff out with the 4G6X engines in the '90s.


There's no replacement for displacement, but boost sure is fun!!!!

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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 06:08:02 AM »
Factory Ecotec 2.0 block= 86mm bore X 86mm stroke   2.0L or 1998cc or 122cid
Factory Ecotec 2.2 block= 86mm bore X 94.6mm stroke   2.2L or 2198cc or 134cid
Factory Ecotec 2.4 block = 88mm bore X 98mm stroke   2.4L or 2384cc or 145cid  (Largest bore and stroke in a Ecotec Generation 2)

Ecotec 2.0 block with +2 bore (88mm) standard (86mm) stroke = 88mm bore X 86mm stroke   2.1L or 2092cc or 128cid
Ecotec 2.0 block with +2 bore (88mm) 98mm stroker = 88mm bore X 98mm stroke   2.4L or 2384cc or 145cid
Ecotec 2.2 block with +2 bore (88mm) standard (94.6mm) stroke = 88mm bore X 94.6mm stroke   2.3L or 2301cc or 140cid
Ecotec 2.2 block with +2 bore (88mm) 98mm stroker = 88mm bore X 98mm stroke   2.4L or 2384cc or 145cid

Sorry 2.4L guys no over bore or stroker... unless you figure some elite custom option, like journal grinding or customer pistons or crank.

Let us know if you do, cause I'm interested!!!

Talk to the DSM guys, we figured this stuff out with the 4G6X engines in the '90s.


There's no replacement for displacement, but boost sure is fun!!!!

Good info, I know I was a DSM guy back in the day 1995 through 1998
Dave Gilbert
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Fax - 815-439-6751
WERKS MAX Power Solstice GXP LNF - "50 Trim" WERKs turbo - 109 Octane - 415whp/428ftlbs
Anthony's SKY Redline LNF - GT35R - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 442whp/414ftlbs
Ricky's Solstice LE5 '50 trim" WERKS turbo - 93 Octane/Water/Meth - 374whp/358ftlbs
Matt's Cobalt SS LNF Billet 55/57 WERKs turbo - 93 Octane - 442whp/450ftlbs
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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 01:22:02 AM »
What happened to this stoker its not on your web site anymore?

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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2013, 06:12:14 PM »
What happened to this stoker its not on your web site anymore?

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Re: New WERKSracing 2.4L LNF Stroker engine now available!!!
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2013, 02:30:53 AM »
Now that you no longer sell it ill throw in my 2 cent's.  Making more power by putting in a weaker cast crank seams like a bad idea. 
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