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Offline cdflint

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My custom taillight mod
« on: January 21, 2013, 07:09:54 PM »
Not that I needed to make any more modifications. This one I just lucked out. I happen to find a taillight on Ebay and the other one from Flaagan at really good prices. I love the look of leds strips and halos but I thought I would also add laser etching (not sure I'm happy with it but its done). I went to a local trophy shop for the etching and purchased the leds, morimoto halos (Thanks Cartmann) and led converter. After reading threads from Cartmann and Tomato soup, I'd thought I'd give it a go.

First I had to open the light with a dremel tool. Not easy and be really careful because nicks or burning off too much just happens. I dremeled off and it was like the glue was plastic. Once it cooled, it was back to being just as hard. Work you way around till you eventually pop it off.

Next I lined up the led strips. No they are not perfect but usable.



Next I drilled out the center for the MR-16 light for the brake and turn signal light  and then did the same for the halo. These halos are burn your retina's bright but once the cover are over them, they are great.













So here is my dilemma. I couldn't get the wiring to light properly. The led converter has three wires. Black, Red and Green. I placed the MR16 on a black and one on green and the halo and led strips on black and red. Once connected, the led strip and halo would light up (halo fully) but the mr16 would not light with it when braking or turn signal. I reversed the plug and then only the halo would show half light and then shine fully on brake or turn. No MR16 on either. I have checked the light and it does work so my issue is wiring and how it connects to the plug in.


Any suggestion would be grateful.

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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 12:04:56 AM »
What is the LED converter? Could maybe help if I knew what you were using it for (and how). Product link maybe?
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 12:50:10 AM »
It was something I had seen on ebay. I thought it would work. They just call it a LED decoder. It looked nice, I cut the wires on the bulb side and soldered them on.



from ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3156-3157-3056-LED-Decoder-LED-Warning-Canceller-No-Error-For-LED-Car-Light-DC8-/170875555595?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c8fa0f0b&vxp=mtr

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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 07:29:44 AM »
I'm assuming that ''led decoder'' is just a resistor that is meant to make the bcm think that the current your rear lights are using is normal so it does not detect any problems since leads draw less electricity. Ie: a lot of people put in resistors with led turn signals so they don't blink really fast

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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 07:41:34 AM »
That is what I thought too although I wasn't concerned about the hyper flashing. I was trying to use as a method to plug into the OEM socket. This seemed like it could do the trick. So far it isn't but hopefully I'm just missing a connection.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2013, 09:49:56 AM »
Not sure WHAT this LED decoder does, but it seems to be something to fool CANbus electronic error messages for LED lights.  As our cars don't have that, it's probably more a hindrance than any help.

I would remove the box part from the equation and connect the LEDs directly to the car wiring (you can still cut off and use the box's socket connector as a pigtail).
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2013, 07:34:15 PM »
Yeah, if that was top trick the bcm into thinking there are actual bulbs, that plastic would melt in no time. As far as I know, there really isnt a way to show a load without actually having the load there. Which is what the resitors are for an would heat up pretty f'n hot. Like tomato said, those are probably for fooling canbus light out detectors.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 10:15:23 PM »
Thanks , I'll get some sockets to crack open and solder direct. What do you think I need to do to make the halo as running and brake/turn?
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My custom taillight mod
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 03:19:00 AM »
Its going to depend on how much power they are drawing. TS has all the math memorized and can recite it under water while swimming with sea Turtles.

But, id say you need to show the correct load for the factory set up or the BCM is going to yell at you.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 10:08:46 AM »
Sorry, I'd reply but the d*mned Sea Turtles are pestering me.



Oh, they swam off now...  Chas... depends what you want to do.  Halos ONLY on brake/turn?  Just connect to the brake/turn supply (I assume they are already set for 12V).  If you want them to be both running lights AND brake turn, then you need a diode to isolate and a resistor that will dim them in 'running' mode.  You've got to let us know exactly what you want to do with all three lighting bits.

Anyway, see my circuit diagram here: http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,6993.msg101156.html#msg101156

Ignore the 7812 bits on the left.  Replace the rectangle mass of LEDs/resistors at the top right with your halo and see how the 22R resistor and diode connect in the middle.  Then you can use the halo for running & brake (obviously YOUR resistor value may need to be different).  Hope that makes sense.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 10:19:17 AM by TomatoSoup »
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 12:37:54 AM »
Thanks TS. After deliberating on swimming with the fishes I decided to go the easy way and just wire three simple welds to the back socket. Hazah, it now works!!!

Halo and LED's only



With Brake and Turn light



Now I need to glue the cover back on and niteshade it. I tried permatech glue weld for plastic  for the etching and halo and it did really well but it doesn't allow a surgical  line to make it look clean. Its just mix and spread on. Any suggestions?
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My custom taillight mod
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 02:44:57 AM »
duct tape?
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 12:06:19 PM »
duct tape?

No no no :slap: this is a Kappa, use speed tape.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 11:39:26 AM »
duct tape?

My wife says its not just for dating anymore.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 11:58:27 AM »
My wife says its not just for dating anymore.

I'm not going to ask...    :rofl:
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2013, 12:10:04 PM »
What about the stuff they use on the Headlights . Put a thin layer down then Heat it and seal them together . Theres a product called
U Glu Its a thin double sided tape clear. I used it on my Mini mirrors that are in the direct weather and makes a permaseal. It is water tight to.
I don't remember where I got it though.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2013, 12:19:58 PM »
I found a lable that says U Glu is a Registered trademark of Morgan Adhesive Company Wayne, NJ 07470

I think my Sister got it for me when I was in Florida
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2013, 05:50:39 PM »
The honey do list of the day took too long and I didn't have enough glue to hit both lenses soooo. I'll have to do it for another day. Here are pics so far. Again they are not in placed on correctly and the trunk lid is not fully down. Just shots to see the far away effect.

Halo close



Brake light



Running lights



With Brake lights

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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2013, 06:37:19 PM »
Is the middle brake light even working?
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 01:14:40 AM »
Is the middle brake light even working?

Yes I was just pressing the unlock button to light them up.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2013, 11:01:32 AM »
Yesterday I taped around the light on the car to re-glue the lens back on. I would suggest when dremeling off the lens not to completely clean off the portion around the edges. I did for one and not the other and the one not cleared set easier back in place. Now it is glued in place and waiting for it to cure. Then I will take off the car and extra glue the sides for better adhesion and complete sealing. Next week I will do the niteshade.

Lit and lens off



All taped up and ready for Plastic weld/epoxy.





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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2013, 12:18:19 PM »
Interesting... so why not take the light out to glue it?
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2013, 12:55:58 PM »
If I understand you correctly, I had to set the base in so when I glued the lens on I could line up the edges of the lens to the body gapping. If I tried to just glue together without being on the car, I don't think I would come close to lining up right. Now that it is gapped right, I will remove the tail light and give extra glue to it to better seal it.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2013, 03:29:13 PM »
Ahhh, gotcha.
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Re: My custom taillight mod
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2013, 08:10:47 PM »
Added more epoxy glue and took out for a test run. Hit bumpy roads and let the DRL's stay on. Point A to Point B, all was well. Point B back to Point A and the DRL's were out. Blown fuse. Brake and turn stayed. I tried to place another 15 amp fuse and POP. 20 amp fuse, POP. 25 amp, stays on.

My question to the electricians, is it ok to have a higher amp fuse in there?
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