Now we have:EDS means $950 but you have lowest shipping tax and no customs issues
EDS Motorsport 23.7" x 7.9" x 3.95" 699€
I wouldn't get the ddm one based soley on their misleading photo sitting below a seemingly tiny hahn one. I have a Hahn it aint small.
I wouldn't get the ddm one based soley on their misleading photo sitting below a seemingly tiny hahn one. I have a Hahn it aint small.If anything, the DDM is slightly more narrow than the Hahn. I just installed the DDM and it fit like a glove, a very tight glove, but a glove none the less. I didn't have to modify anything to make it fit either.
Wow, thanks for letting us know that. It was not meant to be misleading at all, we just set them both on the ground and took that picture to show the difference between the bar and plate and the extruded core and the number of rows. Sorry if anyone thought it was misleading, I will have them take some new pictures, in the mean time I had Ivy remove that picture from our site.
Thanks,
Dave
anyone thought of making your own?... buy a core, endtank ect... bolt it on and done
After the install, did you notice any performance gains?It's kind of hard to tell for me. I had not driven the car for 7 months before installing it.
When I installed my Dejon, it was staright bolt on as well.+1
there is one called the Davies Corvette motorized license plate frame. I think spikey has one on his car..
yeah thats the ticket.. will that fit on a stock splitterIf your referring to the stock GXP nose. It would but the round portion of the bumper will make the plate stand out more.
Hey Speede, where did you get those signal bluish bulbs? Are they 3157 type?Those are the chrome style bulbs from ebay.
Looks great spedee
yeah thats the ticket.. will that fit on a stock splitter
I wonder just how much airflow is blocked by the ugly license plate install on Ontario solstices..I am thinking of putting in a new IC but will likely send the car to the body shop to fill the plugs the dealer so graciously drilled into the fascia ..tangent question who sells license plate mounts on here..
The grills are not where we get air from. If you look through them you will see the foam crash protection covering most of the open area. These cars are bottom breathers they get most of their air from underneath the nose and suck it upward through the radiator. The GXP has the extra grille down low to direct addtional air to the intercooler.Your correct. That's is why I wouldn't put the plate lower.
You know I never thought of getting a nose from him, if you don't mind me asking how much did it run you, and don't you have different braces?
Hahn states that there IC gives you up to 27WHP.
Thanks speede, they are within driving distance.Your welcome. Ask Wade for a ride in his 427 Solstice. Friggin powerfull.
I don't have the technical skill, but my daughter makes cool noises that sounds like its running a bigger turbo....does that count?
They also forget to mention that in fact it will give you exactly zero more power on an 'otherwise untuned car' as soon as the ECM learns down again, some time between 1/2 hour and 1/2 week later.:huh: But Bill!!!! Who has an untuned Kappa around here these days? :devil:
So to all the guys with stock tunes, fuggedaboutit!
You can probably pick an OEM intercooler for the cheap.
DDM, Werks and other members should have some for you to buy.
That is so strange. I was price searching DDM's, Dejon, Hahn and Werks just yesterday. I forgot about RPI but I'm curious why you would take the RPI off and go back to stock and why they are laying around in the DDM shop? Is somthing wrong with RPI's other than they are no longer in business?
Dave if they are good what price for one? Dave/Kenny PM me.
So now that it's out of warranty, my car has apparently decided to start :censor: ing with me. I noticed over the last week or so that despite the heat wave, the cooling fan always shuts off the second I kill the ignition. I was walking out of the bank today and noticed this:With the size of that buldge you're not throwing a code? Mine was cracked on the passenger side and was repalced a couple of months ago under the drivetraine warranty.(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r13/reedred/Mobile%20Uploads/20120703_145408.jpg)...
Did you only test the IC or all the piping as well?
I disconnected the hose from the turbo and connected my test plug to the intercooler hose so all piping and hoses have been checked. It held 20+lbs for at least 10 minutes. I spoke to a friend and he told me to put the stock spark plugs back in (I have been running NGK 6509's 1 step cooler). I also cleaned the MAF sensor with MAF sensor cleaner. I drove the car and it still acts the same. I think at this point I have some type of software issue. Is it possible to connect the car to some type of scan tool while I am driving to check ECU functions, O2 sensors, knock sensors, A/F ratios, etc... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I disconnected the hose from the turbo and connected my test plug to the intercooler hose so all piping and hoses have been checked. It held 20+lbs for at least 10 minutes. I spoke to a friend and he told me to put the stock spark plugs back in (I have been running NGK 6509's 1 step cooler). I also cleaned the MAF sensor with MAF sensor cleaner. I drove the car and it still acts the same. I think at this point I have some type of software issue. Is it possible to connect the car to some type of scan tool while I am driving to check ECU functions, O2 sensors, knock sensors, A/F ratios, etc... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Do you by chance use an Android phone?????
Yes
I took my car to my local Chevy dealer today to fix the convertible top. I spoke to my Saturn tech and he went for a test drive with me. The car reached around 10psi boost and the check engine light started flashing. The same cylinder #3 misfire codes (P0303) came up. He pulled the car into the shop and switched the coil packs with cylinder #2. We drove the car again and this time misfire on cylinder #2. I replaced the bad coil pack and now the car runs great !!
Smart tech! Glad you got everything sorted out. :thumbs:Good deal. Coil issues are unfortunately very common on LNF. He was on his game for sure!
My joy is short-lived. I went to re-install my BSR tune and it doesn't recognize my car now. A similar situation happened to me a couple of days ago when I had a tech at a Honda dealer clear the check engine light. At that time, I disconnected the battery for 20 minutes and it was okay. When I went to the dealer today, he used a GM TechII scanner. So today, I disconnected my battery and when I reconnected it and I now get an error code saying I need to sync my tuner with BSR. They want an extra $80.00 to buy a "tuning warranty" for this process. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:Ah, the apparently never-ending saga of modern electronic performance. It would appear your dealer tech may have also flashed in the most recent stock cal for your car, creating sync issues for the BSR tune.
Good deal. Coil issues are unfortunately very common on LNF. He was on his game for sure!
Hi Bill, Thanks for the post. I spoke to Jesse at Hahn RaceCraft today in regards to any help I can get with the BSR tuner I purchased from your company. He was going to contact BSR to possibly help me get my PPC tuner to read my car again.Perfect. Jesse is one of our very treasured new employees. He'll involve me as needed.
Reed,
See here:
http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty/ (http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty/)
It seems like the stock intercoolers have a limited life span.
So that list is the current GM Powertrain warranty, which has changed since 2009. You did inspire me to look in the glovebox, where it turned out I still had the warranty booklet. The Charge Air Cooler, its fan, and a whole bunch of other stuff are actually covered under the emissions warranty for some reason. Tony read it and agreed with me, so right now they're looking at it so they can order the parts for my covered repair. Whew- that was a thousand dollars I wasn't looking to spend right now! Thanks, GJ!!!
Enough intercoolers have ballooned up that I'm aware of it and realized what was going on before it completely failed and I found coolant all over the garage. Given my low level of technical expertise, I'd already come to the same conclusion that elff did about the factory part. Tony the service writer suspects it failed because of the fan issue not cooling it properly so there is a valid possibility that it's really just a symptom and could've otherwise lasted the life of the car.
I did consider asking if they would install the Hahn piece instead, but decided against that for two reasons: it's not a drop in replacement so I'd have to ask them to make modifications, and for $600 I can get a pretty good hooker and a decent amount of blow. While upgrading would be ideal, their decision to replace the entire cooling system at no cost to me was too good to pass up. If it only lasts another 40K miles I can always go aftermarket later. As GJ pointed out I have the stock tune, no go faster mods whatsoever, and no plans for any, so the factory piece should suffice.
Thanks for your support! By the way, you can call me Bill, but I do also enjoy the more formal Mr. Hahn, as respectful behavior is often so lacking in today's world :)
Mr. Hahn, I very much think that Hahn racecraft is making the best decision. I think that offering a HP Tuners package or even Trifecta will better fit what you guys represent. I remember looking at the BSR back in Aug of 2008 when I took delivery of my Cobalt SS/TC and was very close to buying it. I have since moved on from that car and now have a Sky Redline. I have been using HP tuners and couldn't be happier at the simplicity of using it for logging and being able to monitor parameters that normally I wouldn't be able to see. It just feels so reassuring having this software coupled with a reputable tuner.
Glad to see you coming on our forums a lot lately :thumbs:
(must remember to call him Mr. Hahn if I need help with something.....)Nope you didn't say it at all.
Damn,
Did I say that out loud?
Don't worry no one heard you.
Hahn states that their IC gives you up to 27WHP. click on link for dyno runs.
http://www.turbosystem.com/New_Folder/SolsticeGXPRedline/GXP%20Redline%20Intercooler%20Sell%20Page.htm (http://www.turbosystem.com/New_Folder/SolsticeGXPRedline/GXP%20Redline%20Intercooler%20Sell%20Page.htm)They also forget to mention that in fact it will give you exactly zero more power on an 'otherwise untuned car' as soon as the ECM learns down again, some time between 1/2 hour and 1/2 week later.
So to all the guys with stock tunes, fuggedaboutit!:huh: But Bill!!!! Who has an untuned Kappa around here these days? :devil:
would an ic be more effective if it had a fan mounted on it and staying on all the time?In some cases, yes, but even the strongest electric fans are hard pressed to reproduce the air blast and quantity that the car traveling at, say, 60 MPH can provide on its own. Electric fans, even on cooling system radiators, are primarily intended to address periods of slow or no car movement. Once you're up and running, the car's speed takes care of the needed airflow over the radiator and/or intercooler.
Move to the Artic?
would an ic be more effective if it had a fan mounted on it and staying on all the time?
thx Kenny, i remember we had this discussion some time ago.
i am not looking for more power at the moment, just trying to find out which are the practical ways to get the coldest air possible into the engine.
Otherwise, like Bill said, once you are moving, the fans start to become a restriction to the flow of air through the intercooler/radiator.
Yup. I always run a fan on the race cars because we used to get delayed in pregrid and some of them don't like to restart once they are hotter than heck sitting idling in the sun. Always gives you a good feeling to just reach out and flick a switch and sit comfortably while those around you without fans start uttering muted (by the helmets) screams at the track crew to get things on the road. I gladly sacrifice any small reduction in cooling caused by the fan blocking air at speed for that sense of security in pregrid!
Yes, radiator fan, and no, I don't run shrouding - I don't need it at idle and it would just further block the air at speed. I have the whole nose of the car ducted to the radiator and have no cooling issues once under way.
The IC on the Kappas puts out a fair bit of thermal load, straight into the radiator which must make that component critical as well. Are the racers running upgraded rads as well as ICs? Kind of compounds the issue.
Okay, here is the deal, forget everything you have read, everything you have been told. Go to the dealer, you either will have to pay or not. Don't say anything about the federally mandated emissions coverage which most likely will cover you as it has others. Just bite the bullet and pay if they ask for it. Do not ask why it isn't covered.
Hey SA:lol: :lol: :lol:
Told Ya
I have a cracked inter cooler :gaah:
Anyone know if it's covered under warranty GMPP?
Don't have the $$ for an aftermarket one right now so suggestions if it's not covered.
Thanks