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What? I don't own my car?
« on: April 29, 2015, 02:22:07 AM »
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2015, 07:36:38 AM »
Read between the lines there are a lot of people out there making a lot of money on upgrading the performance on new computer controlled cars with software changes . My guess is that at some point in time the Automakers will demand some type of "royalty" to access the programing on their cars to make these performance upgrades it's only a matter of time .
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2015, 01:17:51 PM »
That is ridiculous and supported by a lot of major manufacturers although Tesla isn't among them,

We should all go out and buy a Tesla...
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2015, 01:54:20 PM »
So when I am done with my their car is GM going to buy it back for a reasonable price because the software in it shouldn't really depreciate?
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2015, 02:05:14 PM »
It's B.S.  Then technically you are leasing it, and the cost should be significantly cheaper.

They just need to lock their ECM code better.  It's a total Pita if not currently impossible to tune the current BMWs and Mini's because no one has cracked the code.
I can understand them voiding your warranty if you modify the code, but this is a stretch
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2015, 10:14:32 PM »
I totally agree with voiding the warranty if you mess with the programming and that causes issues.

I'm pretty sure I own my 01 Dakota. It doesn't have a computer that works.
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2015, 03:31:49 PM »
Quote from: Gentleman Jack on April 29, 2015, 10:14:32 PM
I totally agree with voiding the warranty if you mess with the programming and that causes issues.

I'm pretty sure I own my 01 Dakota. It doesn't have a computer that works.

It's a Dodge, of course it doesn't.
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2015, 01:53:25 AM »

Quote from: Sol Asylum on April 30, 2015, 03:31:49 PM
It's a Dodge, of course it doesn't.
Exactly!

Plus- it's a 14 year old truck running 44 year old engine technology.  It is 5.9 liters and yet only produces some 250 hp and gets 9 mpg.
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2015, 06:54:20 AM »
Wow, that's exactly how I feel since I'm owning  (ok I don't own it) a car.

Ever tried to make changes to a car in Germany?

Just install U.S. tail lights, use bigger tires, install a different exhaust system, or even make your car faster etc. you'll be in biiiiiiiggggggg trouble.

From that moment your car has no operating license anymore and no insurance.

All these things need to be approved by the German Technical Inspection Authority (TÜV) and most of the time they say noooooo!

Even if these changes would guarantee a better  safety (like the U.S. tail lights bright red turning light), no it doesn't comply with the European / German law so remove it.

Indirect they tell you that you're not owning your car, because you're not allowed to make any changes. :banghead:

Even with an approvement of the Technical Inspection Authority a police officer can pull you over and ask you to remove the changes or he can confiscate your car. :gaah:
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Re: What? I don't own my car?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2015, 02:01:23 PM »
^^^ The beloved Europe ...
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