Topic: Kappa Specific Sound Deadening Kits

[Critterman]

Have you tried just pulling it out  without heating?   All of mine came out by hand with a scrapper and no heat. 

[Treeman]

OK, so I've started doing this, and the edge of my putting knife keeps scratching/cutting into the ecoat... Is it anything to worry about, or after I've got it cleaned up, should I lay some primer down?

Thanks

If I had that problem, I didn't notice it.  Round the corners of your putty knife, keep it flat, and you  shouldn't scratch it.

[LiquidPT]

Have you tried just pulling it out  without heating?   All of mine came out by hand with a scrapper and no heat. 

Ya, that's not happening... Mine's an 09, so less time to deteriorate... heat and putty knife work, but that edge is catching...

Good call on rounding it... That'd work for the driver's side, but I've done the passsenger's now. I have the primer, just don't know if I need to..

[JimmyBaja]

I would primer the scratches, you're not going to see it once you put everything in place & it's cheep insurance from rust. 

[LiquidPT]

I would primer the scratches, you're not going to see it once you put everything in place & it's cheep insurance from rust. 

Kinda what I was thinking. Gotta get it super clean... prob lay down some plastic as well. Maybe I shoulda got brush on primer...

[Rudeboy]

You won't get rust under CLD Tiles, but I'd apply primer anyway - belt and suspenders kind of guy

[LiquidPT]

You won't get rust under CLD Tiles, but I'd apply primer anyway - belt and suspenders kind of guy

Cool. Threw down some Rustoleam to dry overnight. Tomorrow I lay down the floor stuff and run some electrical while the whole thing is apart...

[LiquidPT]

Cool. Threw down some Rustoleam to dry overnight. Tomorrow I lay down the floor stuff and run some electrical while the whole thing is apart...

OK, got the floor all put back together... how the heck did you guys get the lower stud on the dead pedal to line up. I don't feel like I'm even close...

Thanks
Matt

[Gentleman Jack]

Matt,

Can you take a photo?  Why won't it line up?  Is the carpet to high?  Did you put a stick on panel right under it?  Can you send some photos?

GJ

[TomatoSoup]

OK, got the floor all put back together... how the heck did you guys get the lower stud on the dead pedal to line up. I don't feel like I'm even close...

It IS kinda tight.  As BG implies, make sure the liner and carpet are all in tight, then it's a case of brute force and ignorance... push/bend until it goes in (try to get it on the tips of all the bolts first, then push in evenly). 

I just had mine out again as part of routing new speaker wires and it was pretty hard to get it back on again.

[Go-N Def]

It IS kinda tight.  As BG implies, make sure the liner and carpet are all in tight, then it's a case of brute force and ignorance... push/bend until it goes in (try to get it on the tips of all the bolts first, then push in evenly). 
I just had mine out again as part of routing new speaker wires and it was pretty hard to get it back on again.

If you hadn't mentioned BG, it wouldn't have sounded half as dirty!

[LiquidPT]

Matt,

Can you take a photo?  Why won't it line up?  Is the carpet to high?  Did you put a stick on panel right under it?  Can you send some photos?

GJ

Carpet's too high, and I think the cutout is misaligned (due to the carpet shifting with material up the sides).

I'll give it one more brute force shot... Hard to even tell where the stud is at the same time as I have the dead pedal in there. I only seem to be able to locate it if I peel back the carpet.

Otherwise I was thinking about dremeling a slot in the side trim panel for the dead pedal tab to go under.

[Gentleman Jack]

Carpet's too high, and I think the cutout is misaligned (due to the carpet shifting with material up the sides).

I'll give it one more brute force shot... Hard to even tell where the stud is at the same time as I have the dead pedal in there. I only seem to be able to locate it if I peel back the carpet.

Otherwise I was thinking about dremeling a slot in the side trim panel for the dead pedal tab to go under.

Liquid,

We did not have nearly that much trouble on Critters car.  I know every instal of this stuff goes different, but something is amiss.  Even with all the sound deadener and peel and stick pieces (forgot what they are called) there was plenty of clearance.  Can you take / post a few photos to help jog my memory? 

I have to ask: did you cut a whole for the stud to come thru the sound deadener?  Is the carpet back in the same way?  The stud comes up thru the carpet right?  Did you already put the side trim piece in? and the door sill?

Not trying to insult, just trying to cover all bases.

Thanks,

GJ

[LiquidPT]

I have to ask: did you cut a whole for the stud to come thru the sound deadener? 

No, but I poked it thru the vinyl

Is the carpet back in the same way?  The stud comes up thru the carpet right? 

As close as I could. There a circular cutout for the stud in the carpet, and I'm having troubles seeing if that's at ALL lining up, partly because I don't think the stud is long enough to even reach the carpet.

Did you already put the side trim piece in?

It was there the whole time

and the door sill?

No. Still need to do the back wall, but want to drive my car.

Did critter's carpet have half-inch or so padding on the back in this area? i think it's there to "level" the floor due to the ribs that run lengthwise, but the deadener is acting as a leveler as well, so I think it's getting in the way.

[TomatoSoup]

Did critter's carpet have half-inch or so padding on the back in this area? i think it's there to "level" the floor due to the ribs that run lengthwise, but the deadener is acting as a leveler as well, so I think it's getting in the way.

When I did mine at MMM6, I was told to tear off half of the white padding, but this turned out to be too much and left the floor un-level.  I would suggest no more than a quarter of the depth of the white stuff is ripped off. However, that was only on the flat area of the floor (IIRC) and I don't believe this should interfere with, or is in the area of, your footrest.

You say the side piece was already in place?  The footrest has to go behind that, so that might be interfering with the reinstall.  Better to have that side piece out first I think.

Finally, given your statement that the post is not long enough, you may have the Closed-cell foam extending up to high.  Try cutting that away so that only the MLV vinyl is anywhere behind the footrest.

[Rudeboy]

It definitely shouldn't be this much of a battle. The polyester carpet backing is in layers and few guys peeled off a few layers to get a better carpet fit. What I can't remember is if the hole needs to be large enough for the plastic foot on the dead pedal or just the stud. I'm thinking the foot, but somebody who has done this more recently than I may remember.

[Treeman]

I wrestled and wrestled and stared and wrestled and stared and all of a sudden I changed how I was trying to put it in and it went right in.  There is a non-intuitive (for me) way to do it - and I am trying to remember what the trick was.  Was it sliding it in from the side (from by the brake pedal and over)?  Was it putting the other end in first?  Sorry, but it will go on, just keep trying creative different ways.

I would hesitate about Dremeling down there.  You don't want the thing popping off on you and going under the brake pedal.

[Gentleman Jack]

pictures pictures pictures!

And how did you get it out without taking the side panel off????  I would remove the door sill and side panel (you may already have the door sill) and work from front (foot rest) to back, with the door sill LAST.

GJ

[TomatoSoup]

And how did you get it out without taking the side panel off????  I would remove the door sill and side panel (you may already have the door sill) and work from front (foot rest) to back, with the door sill LAST.

     (as much as I hate to admit agreeing with GJBG )

[LiquidPT]

pictures pictures pictures!

And how did you get it out without taking the side panel off????  I would remove the door sill and side panel (you may already have the door sill) and work from front (foot rest) to back, with the door sill LAST.

GJ

Huh... good question. Could have sworn that stud was exposed. Why else would they bother to put that little black cover over it?

I'll take a look at it tonight

[TomatoSoup]

Stud is exposed.  I ran out to the garage to take a photo of mine in place (excuse the dirt).  Hope this helps...

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Again the side panel (to the left) goes in AFTER the footrest is bolted in place.

[LiquidPT]

Stud is exposed.  I ran out to the garage to take a photo of mine in place (excuse the dirt).  Hope this helps...

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Again the side panel (to the left) goes in AFTER the footrest is bolted in place.

How is that possible if the side panel goes behind the footrest? Seems liek it has to be side panel THEN footrest.

[TomatoSoup]

How is that possible if the side panel goes behind the footrest? Seems liek it has to be side panel THEN footrest.

No, the footrest goes behind the side panel.

[LiquidPT]

No, the footrest goes behind the side panel.

Hrmm... not happening. Not even close.

So, I think i need to shift the carpet by about 1/2", but the stud is definitely below the carpet surface as well...

And I've never had that side panel out, but HAVE had the footrest out several times...

I might just have to pull everything out of that corner this weekend and figure out how to make it work.

[Gentleman Jack]

Hmmm.  Must be an alignment issue.  Shift carpet around to get lined up and then push down on carpet to expose stud? 

GJ