Author Topic: Kappa Specific Sound Deadening Kits (Read 164156 times)

Rudeboy · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2009, 09:17:54 AM »

Quote from: lil goat on October 28, 2009, 09:15:11 AM

I'm supposed to wear a helmet?

Just kidding I wear a full face, unlike most of my friends who ride that where the little beanies, I have some tiles maybe I will do the helmet, hmmmm.

Don't make me take those tiles away from you.

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #51 on:** October 29, 2009, 11:19:49 AM »

Hi guys, just about to do my sound project next week, just a thought on the posts etc. I have seen on this subject. Has anyone compiled the pics/instructions for the passenger compartment floor, rear wall, , doors, trunk ? I see a few posts (thanks to all, especially Don) that kinda cover it but wondered if someone had put together anything with a nice concise reference point.

Be nice to know how many tiles on a door, backwall, trunk floor etc. . I know the guideline is 25% of coverage.

What's a little confusing when you look at the various posts/pics is that they seem to be doing different things with the foam and PVC in different places on different cars. Not always the same. Enough cars have been done, so someone must have an idea of best practice. I will figure mine out based on what's there already but would be good to have it all assembled for those yet to do their cars.

Rudeboy · « **Reply #52 on:** October 29, 2009, 11:35:52 AM »

Quote from: TecSolOnt on October 29, 2009, 11:19:49 AM

Hi guys, just about to do my sound project next week, just a thought on the posts etc. I have seen on this subject. Has anyone compiled the pics/instructions for the passenger compartment floor, rear wall, , doors, trunk ? I see a few posts (thanks to all, especially Don) that kinda cover it but wondered if someone had put together anything with a nice concise reference point.

Be nice to know how many tiles on a door, backwall, trunk floor etc. . I know the guideline is 25% of coverage.

What's a little confusing when you look at the various posts/pics is that they seem to be doing different things with the foam and PVC in different places on different cars. Not always the same. Enough cars have been done, so someone must have an idea of best practice. I will figure mine out based on what's there already but would be good to have it all assembled for those yet to do their cars.

The first page of this thread goes into detail on the doors and the floor. I believe Bryan (nolanb) posted pics for the trunk and back wall, but I think they got lost when this thread got trashed earlier this week. I'll try to add the pictures back in on Saturday. I should probably split this thread in two - kits and directions and commentary.

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #53 on:** October 29, 2009, 01:37:42 PM »

Thanks Don! Probably a good idea to put a permanent link into in on your Sound Deadener Showdown page so it doesn't get mixed in with discussions. I just sent you a Word document on email that contains most all the pics and comments I thought might be needed when I do mine. You could use this instead of going back all thru the threads as good starting point. The file is kinda big 3mb.

Got all my packages as well , thanks alot !!

lil goat · « **Reply #54 on:** October 29, 2009, 02:30:36 PM »

I done what Don told me to do, this is not an exact science, I tapped on different parts of the door and floor panels and the back wall both inside and out, if the panel seemed "live" meaning it had some resonance I put some CLD on it, usually just a small piece, I was actually having fun running around tapping on everything, I just used my finger to tap. This is the first step to reduce the "buzz" after that you want as large a continuous piece as you can with the mat, make as small a hole as you can when you have to and don't forget to shave the factory Styrofoam pieces in the bottom of the door so the panels go back on snug, about 1/4"

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #55 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:31:26 PM »

Thats why I thought Don might want to take on the task of putting a instruction list with pics together and post. Easier for him to tell us and the next guy what to do once on the forum with all the illustrations. I sent him a nice collection of pics and descriptions from these threads, should be able to piece together a overview. With all the experience on this now it should be pretty straight forward.

Agree its not rocket science but folks are fussy about how they do this stuff and want to know its correct before they put the car back together. Little things like shaving the styrofoam are easily over looked if you have to piece together an idea of how to do it by reading thru a couple of dozen posts and assimilating all the info and then still being confused by some of the variations seen in the pics from one car to another. I know I went thru that until I put the Word document together.

DragonSolGXP · « **Reply #56 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:38:01 PM »

I have an unrelated question, but a since you did this I thought I'd ask. Last summer I hit a brick and it made a slight dent underneath... from what I can tell it is just behind the passenger seat towards the back right around that big drain plug.

My question is, is the floor hollow? In other words, if I removed the rear seat and looked under the carpet, would I be able to see the dent and tap it out?

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #57 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:54:51 PM »

Depending on the exact location I think you would be able to get at it. If you look on page 1 of this thread you will see the pics with seats/floor covering removed for an idea if its possible.

DragonSolGXP · « **Reply #58 on:** October 29, 2009, 04:10:15 PM »

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

lil goat · « **Reply #59 on:** October 29, 2009, 04:25:18 PM »

Step one for this process is try and understand what you are attempting to fix, it is not exact, you are not rebuilding an engine. If you read all the posts you might get an understanding of what you are doing and why, it helps a lot. While I am sure some instructions from Don would help many I watched him do Bryan's trunk, he had a stack of CLD tiles in one hand and just walked around tapping with the other, that is what you need to understand. For the doors you could do a decent set of instructions because there is a lot of special things to do, like seal the holes, but if you first understand what you are doing and why it will all be a lot easier. Step one you are trying to stop panel resonance, this is how Dynamat has sold a ton of stuff for years, and typically where they stop. You do not need to lay Dynamat all over every surface in the door, it just makes your car heavy. the second thing you do is seal the doors mostly so that sound is trapped in the doors as they are hollow. Then you create a sound barrier the MLV (mass loaded vinyl) sheet, does that, this is what separates Don's system from most, the CLD tiles, or even dynamat will reduce vibration and resonance. It is not a very good sound barrier, so while the door no longer resonates, you still hear the road noise the same as you always did. That is what the MLV stops along with sealing the door, now you have and anti resonance treatment and a sound deadening treatment, together they are awesome. Absolutely check Don's website before you start, it helps a lot.
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #60 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:33:20 PM »

Been there done that Lil Goat, Don is working on the Word Doc (that has all the compiled info on this subject) I sent him as a reference for future users.

LiquidPT · « **Reply #61 on:** October 29, 2009, 08:26:49 PM »

Quote from: TecSolOnt on October 29, 2009, 07:33:20 PM

Been there done that Lil Goat, Don is working on the Word Doc (that has all the compiled info on this subject) I sent him as a reference for future users.

Just to clarify, Don HAS done step-by-steps for the doors and floors (at the beginning of this thread). We're just missing the back wall and truck, right?

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #62 on:** October 30, 2009, 08:22:47 AM »

There was some info on another thread with the back wall here:

http://kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=1887.20

, I compiled all of the pics and comments on those items , yes the trunk is missing completely.

If Don has something on the trunk and cleans up the document I sent him then there should be everything needed for future reference on the mod. Probably be better for him when he gets orders he could just steer folks to a thread that has it all instead of being spread all over the threads.

spicy3480 · « **Reply #63 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:38:08 PM »

The hardest part about the trunk is actually getting the carpet back in LOL.

LiquidPT · « **Reply #64 on:** October 30, 2009, 01:12:43 PM »

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #65 on:** October 30, 2009, 02:05:24 PM »

Spicy I take it you didn't take any pics of the trunk install?

I hear its a

to get it back in , tips? Did you put down the three layers of tiles, foam and then vinyl on top in the trunk? Reason I asked is Don mentioned the back wall was to tight to use foam and to go with just tiles and vinyl, wondered about the trunk or is there just sections where all three go in.

As I'm just about to start any advice is appreciated.

TomatoSoup · « **Reply #66 on:** October 30, 2009, 02:48:34 PM »

Quote from: TecSolOnt on October 30, 2009, 02:05:24 PM

Spicy I take it you didn't take any pics of the trunk install?

I have some photos of the trunk SD material placement that nolanb took at MDMM6 and had sent me. If you PM me your email I can send them on to you. Nothing about un/re-installing carpet etc. though.

spicy3480 · « **Reply #67 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:03:36 AM »

bnolan has some great pics...maybe he can post them here.

TecSolOnt · « **Reply #68 on:** November 01, 2009, 09:30:05 PM »

Tomato Soup sent me his pics of the trunk install , Don has them as well now.

Thanks all

TomatoSoup · « **Reply #69 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:19:25 AM »

Quote from: TecSolOnt on November 01, 2009, 09:30:05 PM

Tomato Soup sent me his pics of the trunk install , Don has them as well now.

Just to clarify (credit where it's due) those are Bryan's pics (nolanb) - I'm just the intermediary

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #70 on:** November 02, 2009, 12:58:35 PM »

I have his photos also and will try to load them tonight.

almighty.peanut · « **Reply #71 on:** November 02, 2009, 02:56:34 PM »

all of these reviews of you guys i keep reading, and seeing this constantly come up in new posts, i'm seriously considering this for the mini-vette. i already talked to my buddy and he's willing to do all the leg work for me (i'm lazy like that!)

TomatoSoup · « **Reply #72 on:** November 02, 2009, 03:38:48 PM »

Quote from: almighty.peanut on November 02, 2009, 02:56:34 PM

all of these reviews of you guys i keep reading, and seeing this constantly come up in new posts, i'm seriously considering this for the mini-vette. i already talked to my buddy and he's willing to do all the leg work for me (i'm lazy like that!)

You won't regret it: http://kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=3203

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #73 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:29:20 PM »

Bryan's install photos

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #74 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:31:44 PM »

Bryan's Install photos continued

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Author Topic: Kappa Specific Sound Deadening Kits (Read 164156 times)

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