Author Topic: The new stuff is coming.... (Read 26990 times)

DickW · « **Reply #25 on:** September 12, 2009, 11:48:37 AM »

OK, so I'm old and have alz

hiemers. It is not nice to make fun of the handicapped.

Frank I · « **Reply #26 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:49:06 AM »

Quote from: kennysabarese on September 10, 2009, 09:51:54 AM

Speaking of new stuff... whatever happened to the twin charged kappa project

Kenny:

Who was working on the twin turbo project? That is something I would really be interested in.

Frank I

kennysabarese · « **Reply #27 on:** September 14, 2009, 11:03:21 AM »

twincharge != twin turbo

twincharge is a supercharger that does the low end and then disengages and the turbo takes over.

Dave @ DDM mentioned it at the spring 09 MD mod meet. I know nothing else

elff · « **Reply #28 on:** September 14, 2009, 11:38:58 AM »

That sounds awesome

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #29 on:** September 14, 2009, 12:28:06 PM »

Dave mentioned a Twin charged with a supercharger and turbocharger on the same car

elff · « **Reply #30 on:** September 14, 2009, 12:43:19 PM »

Dave

You can have my car for the entire winter[November - March] if you want to use it as the test case!!!!!
Only caveat is come spring, all of the hardware needs to remain in the car when I pick it up.

kennysabarese · « **Reply #31 on:** September 14, 2009, 01:18:26 PM »

You'll need to test both an 07 and 08 so you can take my car as well

duckSol · « **Reply #32 on:** September 17, 2009, 11:57:23 AM »

Quote from: DeepBlueGXP on September 14, 2009, 12:28:06 PM

Dave mentioned a Twin charged with a supercharger and turbocharger on the same car

You are correct.
I believe the 'unit' in question was 'lacking' in obvious portions of the turbo power curve but developed wicked numbers once spooled.
The idea has been around since the 1930's.

"I know nothing, Nothing!" Sgt. Schultz, Hogans Heroes

cooper1340s · « **Reply #33 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:25:01 PM »

The way to deal with that is to use the supercharger to keep the turbo spinning until it is needed.

Dave@DDMworks · « **Reply #34 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:09:03 PM »

We have been working on a twincharged ecotec here actually, when we have more details, I will be sure to post up some pictures of it. We need to do some more tuning on it, but lets just say it is wicked fast

We have been talking to a couple people about the possibility of being the first twincharged kappa, and looks like there are 2 people seriously interested, we will keep you up to date..

kennysabarese · « **Reply #35 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:16:01 PM »

PICK ME!!!!!!!

elff · « **Reply #36 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:18:10 PM »

No way man
I posted this before you did

Quote from: elff on September 14, 2009, 12:43:19 PM

Dave

You can have my car for the entire winter[November - March] if you want to use it as the test case!!!!!
Only caveat is come spring, all of the hardware needs to remain in the car when I pick it up.

And elves are roughly the same size as guinea pigs

kennysabarese · « **Reply #37 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:25:09 PM »

I'm sure that the "couple people" he is talking about are not me or you anyway

duckSol · « **Reply #38 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:33:09 PM »

Dave,

I have thrown P0103 twice at 22-24 lbs boost

one time in foist geer the other

i ferget

Es ist höchste Eine Schaltung Masse oder hoher Lautstärke Luftstrom. Sensor Spannungswert hoch.

I know nothing, Nothing!

elff · « **Reply #39 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:52:27 PM »

Quote from: kennysabarese on September 17, 2009, 03:25:09 PM

I'm sure that the "couple people" he is talking about are not me or you anyway

In my head we are both beta testers
Please don't ruin my dream

That's ok, I'll be a happy customer. I really have serious Supercharger envy. I want the whine.
Having a whine then a woosh will be even cooler.

kennysabarese · « **Reply #40 on:** September 18, 2009, 10:18:32 AM »

Dave. Is twincharge for LNF engines or NA engines?

Dave@DDMworks · « **Reply #41 on:** September 18, 2009, 10:23:53 AM »

Quote from: kennysabarese on September 18, 2009, 10:18:32 AM

Dave. Is twincharge for LNF engines or NA engines?

You can do it on either engine.

kennysabarese · « **Reply #42 on:** September 18, 2009, 10:27:14 AM »

sweet. well i will not ask too many questions. just have to decide how much no lag is worth to me

elff · « **Reply #43 on:** September 18, 2009, 10:32:54 AM »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayREyrk5y9U[/youtube]

Frank I · « **Reply #44 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:29:54 PM »

Quote from: elff on September 18, 2009, 10:32:54 AM

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayREyrk5y9U[/youtube]

Elff:

Thanks for the video, I love the whine of the Supercharger but also like the turbocharger "wheel" whine when coupled with a hot tune and aftermarket intake. The sound is slick. Perhaps one day we can compare the supercharger and turbocharger whine against each other on a video!!!!

Frank I

elff · « **Reply #45 on:** October 10, 2009, 09:25:04 AM »

I am a turbo, so you will have to compare with Critterman,
He has the stage 3.

Frank I · « **Reply #46 on:** October 11, 2009, 10:01:03 PM »

Quote from: elff on October 10, 2009, 09:25:04 AM

I am a turbo, so you will have to compare with Critterman,
He has the stage 3.

Elff:

By "WE" I meant that we (meaning the Solstice community) should compare a supercharged Solstice with a turbocharged Solstice, not your car against mine.

A supercharged Solstice and a turbocharged Solstice both make great sounds, I just thought it would be interesting to compare the two on one video.

Frank I

elff · « **Reply #47 on:** October 11, 2009, 10:40:09 PM »

Soundwise
I'll give it to a Supercharger. No contest.
I love them.
Us turbo's just have the let off

Uranium-238 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 11, 2009, 11:03:04 PM »

I like how turbos sound once they've spun up. Gotta love the sound of a high-speed turbine.

But, I have to agree, superchargers sound the best.

Especially if that supercharger is a Kenne bell, installed on a '03 model Cobra.

<a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf?video=bbda7f12-8d19-46e1-a95b-9a2c0014429b" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://videos.streetfire.net/vidiac.swf?video=bbda7f12-8d19-46e1-a95b-9a2c0014429b</a>

Frank I · « **Reply #49 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:12:18 PM »

Quote from: elff on October 11, 2009, 10:40:09 PM

Soundwise
I'll give it to a Supercharger. No contest.
I love them.
Us turbo's just have the let off

Elff/Uranium:

Don't want to sound like a know it all but turbo's can really scream if the turbo is set up for high boost pressures and high RPM operation. It is a lot like a supercharger whine except a much higher pitch. You would not be able to hear it on a GXP if you did not have a tune that allows for 22+ pounds of boost and an aftermarket aircleaner which does not restrict noise. Both produce sounds that are fantastic but are uniquely different.

We will have to see if we can get Randy/Dave at DDM to set up a video demo? Of course they are going to favor the supercharger sound, but I would just like to hear the two compared against each other on one video sound trac. Come to think about it, DDM could pick up both sounds on the Atom since it has both methods of boosting on one engine!!!

Frank I

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