Author Topic: High Flow Cat install ... (Read 8462 times)

Buckinfitch · « **on:** February 24, 2010, 11:18:29 PM »

ok, who's got the best High Flow Cat for the Sky R/L ...the stock Cat has GOT to go !

I have no tune yet, just a 3" Magnaflow Catback system and DEJON CAI so far, what can I expect once the stock cat is replaced with a High Flow Cat? a small, mediocre, or large noticeable change?, imagine it would at least give the 3" Magnaflow more umph? sounds good now.

have not thrown any codes / CEL's yet, will I be pushing it with the High Flow Cat? without a tune?
would rather spend the little extra du$t that I do have right now on a Hi Flow Cat rather than a tune right now, I don't track or road race so a Trifecta, Wesler, GMPP etc. tune is not a 'must have' for me at the moment.

spicy3480 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2010, 12:40:49 AM »

We sell a fantastic high flow cat for the Redline. Check out the information on it here: http://www.skyroadster.com/forums/f76/sky-redline-high-flow-catalytic-converter-29706/

If you would like to order, or have any questions, please call me at 516-655-9002. Thanks and have a great day:)

Steve Mariano
Solo Performance

ASETech67 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2010, 12:54:24 AM »

Quite honestly...without doing a tune first...dont waste the money on the High Flow Cat. Any increase you have in flow along with horsepower and torque will be short lived, cause the stock tune in the ECM is designed to maintain a Maximum torque limit of 260 ft lbs, and 260 base HP...it will "learn down" any gains you may achieve with a high flow cat, 3" exhaust, or any other performance mods you may do. If you want permanent gains from any of these items...do the tune first I would suggest the GMPP, you keep your warranty in tact with it...and its by far the best bang for your buck (290 base HP and either 325 ft lbs of torque for auto trans, or 340 ft lbs of torque for the manual trans)...since its from GM...its compatible with all systems of your Kappa including Trans...none of the other tunes out there can make that boast, although the better ones are making alil more HP but about the same torque, they cant make any changes to your trans at this point in time, and the HP isnt that significant. Once you do the Tune, go for the SOLO High Flow Cat...they have the best one out there for the Kappa...and it has zero problem with Check engine light coming on. SOLO also has the Best Customer Service going IMHO...if you dont believe me...ask around...Im sure the Vast majority on here will agree with me about SOLO, as well as most of what I said about doing the tune first. Whatever you decide...I hope you have fun most of all...for thats what driving these cars is all about...Living life in the Fun Lane!!

KWhale · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:53:14 AM »

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I agree with the Solo Cat part! I disagree with getting it done first or not. Who cares if the advantage gets learned out after a few days? Once you get your tune, the benefits will be back, and if you're doing a Westers Tune for example, it's better if you have all your mods in place first. Although, if you do more modding after installing a Westers Tune, they will update you for free to take full advantage of your new mods, but why do it twice?

I Can't say enough about how great Solo is to deal with. It seems every person there just wants happy customers (and all your money lol). One of the best companies I've dealt with on this forum Right up there with DDM, JPM and WindRestrictors. Go Solo, you won't be Sado

Sly Bob · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:05:08 AM »

I can tell you one thing and I say this because I have a Solo system on my GXP. If you get a Solo system on your car and for some unfathomable reason you are NOT completly satisfied, Jeff and Steve will not rest until you are.

Their systems and thier customer service is top notch! What's not to love.

KWhale · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:11:51 AM »

Just thought of this. Make sure the Cat will hook up OK with your Magnaflow. I have a Solo Cat and Solo Exhaust system so that was not an issue for me. It might be a dumb question, but better safe than sorry.

Gentleman Jack · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:41:38 AM »

Mods then tune vs tune then mods...

answer is- do you want your power now or later. If you want it now, tune first. if you want to get all your mods done first, then tune once, then tune later. either way, the high flow cat will make a difference in how your RL sounds. It will not make much difference in how it performs (it will for the first few key cycles / miles driven, but after that it will go back to stock as described above) until there is a tune to go with it.

Short of it is, you can't go wrong with the direction you are headed. Your path is up to you. They all end up in the same place... FAST.

GJ
Forum Buddah

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2010, 07:09:29 AM »

We had a Solo Cat long before a tune and I can tell you that it didn't get learned out. I have dynos to prove it. 216 to 235 rwhp and that was 6 months apart.

kennysabarese · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2010, 08:51:03 AM »

Quote from: DeepBlueGXP on February 25, 2010, 07:09:29 AM

We had a Solo Cat long before a tune and I can tell you that it didn't get learned out. I have dynos to prove it. 216 to 235 rwhp and that was 6 months apart.

Mythbusted

snaponbob · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2010, 08:55:32 AM »

Quote from: DeepBlueGXP on February 25, 2010, 07:09:29 AM

We had a Solo Cat long before a tune and I can tell you that it didn't get learned out. I have dynos to prove it. 216 to 235 rwhp and that was 6 months apart.

with the increase. I installed a catless downpipe exactly a year ago. IMPRESSIVE increase in power WITHOUT a tune. The car was driven around for over a week with no noticeable decrease at all. It DID throw a cat efficiency code which is not correctable with a catless d/p. With the Solo HIGH FLOW CAT, if you through a similar code, it can be addressed with an O2 extender at the downstream sensor. My engine did NOT suffer from the dreaded learn down. I did do the Wester's tune for racing.

DeepBlueGXP · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2010, 10:42:40 AM »

Solo resolved that code several years ago with the 02 extension that SOB mentions

Buckinfitch · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2010, 11:39:59 AM »

Quote from: kennysabarese on February 25, 2010, 08:51:03 AM

Mythbusted

Great ! good stuff and very edumacational ... SOLO IT IS !

Thanks to all !

davytudope · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:35:56 PM »

if you do get the solo cat make sure to get an extra section of exhaust from them so you can cut off the 2.5" section of the magnaflow right after the cat to make it 3"

Buckinfitch · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2010, 07:31:26 PM »

Quote from: Gentleman Jack on February 25, 2010, 02:41:38 AM

Mods then tune vs tune then mods...

answer is- do you want your power now or later. If you want it now, tune first. if you want to get all your mods done first, then tune once, then tune later. either way, the high flow cat will make a difference in how your RL sounds. It will not make much difference in how it performs (it will for the first few key cycles / miles driven, but after that it will go back to stock as described above) until there is a tune to go with it.

Short of it is, you can't go wrong with the direction you are headed. Your path is up to you. They all end up in the same place... FAST.

GJ
Forum Buddah

SOLO High Flow Cat is on the UPS truck and on the way

I unknowingly did this backa§§wards, I installed the 3" Magnaflow(quad tips) system first, took out the stock air box and installed the DEJON CAI. (no CEL's yet) or no tune (YET?) Jeff at SOLO assured me I should be ok still. after the SOLO cat install with the 02 extender.
I noticed a big difference (zippier) with just the two mods above. I think a Trifecta tune is my next option, just need a few more $$$.

I'm not too concerned about the 2½" reducer piece going back down into the 3" MF pipe, I'm not Auto-Xing or ¼ mile'ing so the few tenths of a sec it may cost me ain't no thang.
(Kelu >>>--->

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and I still be Happy

as GJ states, all of the above should/will learn 'back' up after the learn 'down' if one?

great info GJ ...TY

Kelu · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2010, 08:04:02 PM »

No, I will not

still I don't understand why you many people love and buy Magnaflow cat-back. All because of damn marketing? you like to have engraved tips to show off? I hate to be told 3" and to be served with 2" as stocker. Especially when you have Solo alternative

Also I'm not everything for the powah, as you can see I have the most "restrictive" cat-back from Solo so I care about comfort too. I went with race (catless dp) because I thought there is a difference in power versus HF, but the guys from this forum showed that the differences are minimal when they did a dyno day. Another factor which convinced me to go with catless dp was the half price which allowed some "room" to go with Norm's rear diffuser fascia also I knew I will change this when I will upgrade my turbo so it was perfect for my case.

Buckinfitch · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2010, 08:11:05 PM »

Quote from: Kelu on March 05, 2010, 08:04:02 PM

No, I will not still I don't understand why you many people love and buy Magnaflow cat-back. All because of damn marketing? you like to have engraved tips to show off? I hate to be told 3" and to be served with 2" as stocker. Especially when you have Solo alternative

Also I'm not everything for the powah, as you can see I have the most "restrictive" cat-back from Solo so I care about comfort too. I went with race (catless dp) because I thought there is a difference in power versus HF, but the guys from this forum showed that the differences are minimal when they did a dyno day. Another factor which convinced me to go with catless dp was the half price which allowed some "room" to go with Norm's rear diffuser fascia also I knew I will change this when I will upgrade my turbo so it was perfect for my case.

You should like this ...

I replaced my original cracked (Saturn badge front grille piece) with this ...

now I'm sure it'll go faster

Kelu · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2010, 08:22:05 PM »

Hahahah, nice one mate

davytudope · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2010, 08:49:24 PM »

Quote from: Kelu on March 05, 2010, 08:04:02 PM

still I don't understand why you many people love and buy Magnaflow cat-back. All because of damn marketing? you like to have engraved tips to show off? I hate to be told 3" and to be served with 2" as stocker. Especially when you have Solo alternative

because of the $300 price difference.

Kelu · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2010, 05:32:00 AM »

I don't know how much is Magnaflow cat back but Solo Mach or Mach Shorty cat-back are around $650, I don't think Magnaflow is $300 lower, or am I wrong?

davytudope · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:58:37 PM »

650 + 100 shipping.
i found my magnaflow brand new on ebay for 450 shipped. and there have been others available for that price. there are some avaiilable for less than 550 shipped now.

Kelu · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2010, 02:08:41 PM »

Now I understand, thank you for info and for clearing my thoughts.

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