Topic: Original Vector Tune from early 2006

[Aspenrose]

Anyone accessed it via HP tuners to know if the O2 sensors settings are locked down? I need to adjust mine with the new Solo cat, and before I spring for HP tuners, or a new tuned ECM, need to figure out if HP tuners is even going to be able to fix it.

[Brad Kenny]

Recommend talking to Randy and Dave before dropping a lot of money on your re-tune.  DDM on '06/'07 is not very expensive and they will be at Canton.

[smartin]

I heard it won't work for us. We have to have Chris unlock it, I believe.

[Aspenrose]

Recommend talking to Randy and Dave before dropping a lot of money on your re-tune.  DDM on '06/'07 is not very expensive and they will be at Canton.

Already talked to Randy, they don't know if it's accessible, and Canton is on my 'not to-do' list. Been there, done it, don't need to repeat T2TR again. Leave it at that.

Another question, I have access to a 2007 NA ECM, will it work in my 2006 NA, of course tuned by someone, other than Vector.

[Gentleman Jack]

Already talked to Randy, they don't know if it's accessible, and Canton is on my 'not to-do' list. Been there, done it, don't need to repeat T2TR again. Leave it at that.

Another question, I have access to a 2007 NA ECM, will it work in my 2006 NA, of course tuned by someone, other than Vector.

Aspen- if the SERVNO: are matching, it will work.  The SERVNO is in tiny print among a bunch of other near meaningless numbers and letters.  Double check that the other ECM has the same exact servno and you should be good to go. If no, it's of no use to you unless you need an interesting paper weight.

GJ

[JustMike]

Mel I can confirm that you have to have Chris unlock the ECM if you need to make any changes.  If I am not mistaken you can find Chris on the HPTuners forum and ask him for options as I seem to remember that he promised us all when we brought it that he would make changes for us if needed.

[DeepBlueGXP]

I concur with justmike.  Vector tunes have the ECM locked. 

[Dave@DDMworks]

If you can not find Chris on the HPtuners forums, let me know, I have a personal email for him. He will need to unlock your ECM though if you want anything modified.

Thanks,
Dave

[smartin]

I concur with justmike.  Vector tunes have the ECM locked.  

That's what I said in my post!

[Aspenrose]

The ECM is going back to Vector this week for a free retune.

The rest of the engine work, head removal to try to drill out the broken stud, front gasket replacement, will have to wait.

Of interest, or not, I found multiple references to O2 sensors only lasting usually about 50k miles, so on my short list of 'routine' maintenance, after the ECM is back, is to replace the front O2 sensor.

And, last but not least, I'm now the proud owner of another 2006 NA ECM, for Lyndon to tune, once all the dust settles.

[DeepBlueGXP]

Are you above the 88K in your sig?

[Aspenrose]

Are you above the 88K in your sig?

Yep! Rolled over the big 90k yesterday morning!

[MomsSol]

I concur with justmike.  Vector tunes have the ECM locked. 

Just as a point of order ... only the portions that Vector 'changed' are locked, not the entire ECM.

[DeepBlueGXP]

But according to DDM, in order for them or anyone else to tune the ECM, it must be sent back to Vector to be unlocked.  JimmyBaja did note that the 09s have a different style program and Vector can't lock them.

[MomsSol]

But according to DDM, in order for them or anyone else to tune the ECM, it must be sent back to Vector to be unlocked.  JimmyBaja did note that the 09s have a different style program and Vector can't lock them.

That is correct .. I was just trying to clarify that the ONLY thing that is locked on the ECM is the portion that Vector tunes - not the 'entire' ECM.  For example,  on my 06 I had to have the Radio reflashed and I did have a Vector tune, my dealer was still able to reflash the radio since that portion was not locked by Vector.

When Vector first came out with their tune there was much confusion and discussion with regard to it being called a 'locked ECM' .. when in fact it is only a locked TUNE.

[Dave@DDMworks]

I guess to clarify more, only the ECM is locked, the radio is controlled by the BCM which is a different module from the ECM and are in different parts of the car. That is why you could have the dealer make flashes to anything in the BCM (body control module) and never have an issue and for that matter if you have an automatic you should be able to flash the TCM (transmission control module) also. However no modifications can be done to the ECM without unlocking it.

In 08 GM did change the ECM in the 2.4L cars from the E67 to the E37 and the E37's as far as we have seen can not be locked by Vector.

Hope that helps clarify,
Dave

[Aspenrose]

I guess to clarify more, only the ECM is locked, the radio is controlled by the BCM which is a different module from the ECM and are in different parts of the car. That is why you could have the dealer make flashes to anything in the BCM (body control module) and never have an issue and for that matter if you have an automatic you should be able to flash the TCM (transmission control module) also. However no modifications can be done to the ECM without unlocking it.

In 08 GM did change the ECM in the 2.4L cars from the E67 to the E37 and the E37's as far as we have seen can not be locked by Vector.

Hope that helps clarify,
Dave

Thanks Dave!  One more reason to dump the VM tune. sooner than later.

[MomsSol]

Thanks for the clarification Dave!

I was always under in impression (from Vector) that the dealer could re-flash over it.  Guess I mis-understood.