Topic: Any one tune for 100 oct yet

[2.0 tspeed]

I've decided to ditch my stock mode and just use it for race gas
I've got plety of places that sell unleaded Rae gas down here so I was wondering has anybody tuned for it yet and what where your whp gains.

[Gentleman Jack]

I believe Snap on Bob has done just that.  His whp gains were evident, but no nearly as impressive as his wtq gains (50 + if I recall?).  If he doesn't chime in soon, I will go find his posts and attach here.

[Kelu]

Saving GJ's time: http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=4859.msg64968#msg64968

[Gentleman Jack]

Thanks buddy!

[snaponbob]

Slowsol, unleaded 100 octane is NOT cheap. When the ECM is tuned to 100, it gets WAY thirsty when you get into the gas pedal. REAL thirsty. From the standpoint of how the car feels on the street, a good 93 octane tune will be plenty, and then you are not tethered to Sunoco stations. I don't have Sunoco available in the KC area, so I have to drive 20 miles for VP100 at $9/gal, so you can trust that Streak now just sits between races. Over the winter I will switch my tune back to 91 octane so I can street drive the car on pump gas.

[2.0 tspeed]

Thanks snap , I have 100 oct mode on my Vw and yeah it gets thirsty, but man do I love the extra hp and tq over 93. It's 10 bucks a gallon Down here. :-/ abywayse your tq gain was nice but I def know there is way more hp to b gained going from 93-100 in my Vw I gain 30 extra whp. Abywayse will see I'm waiting for Vince to get back to me
Ditching my stock tune so I can switch between 93 and 100

[snaponbob]

Thanks snap , I have 100 oct mode on my Vw and yeah it gets thirsty, but man do I love the extra hp and tq over 93. It's 10 bucks a gallon Down here. :-/ abywayse your tq gain was nice but I def know there is way more hp to b gained going from 93-100 in my Vw I gain 30 extra whp. Abywayse will see I'm waiting for Vince to get back to me
Ditching my stock tune so I can switch between 93 and 100

Horsepower is nearly a fictional number. Actually, it is a math formula based on Torque (a real number) and engine RPM. All I know is that at 3000 rpm the store is open for business in a REAL way, and when the tq and hp curves cross (about 4800) sh!t gets busy !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brazen17]

Slowsol, unleaded 100 octane is NOT cheap. When the ECM is tuned to 100, it gets WAY thirsty when you get into the gas pedal. REAL thirsty. From the standpoint of how the car feels on the street, a good 93 octane tune will be plenty, and then you are not tethered to Sunoco stations. I don't have Sunoco available in the KC area, so I have to drive 20 miles for VP100 at $9/gal, so you can trust that Streak now just sits between races. Over the winter I will switch my tune back to 91 octane so I can street drive the car on pump gas.

I don't feel NEARLY as bad paying $5.99/gallon for 100 octane here in Vegas as I did before this thread!    In fact I don't think I'll gripe about it anymore.  

[HAMMER DOWN]

I don't feel NEARLY as bad paying $5.99/gallon for 100 octane here in Vegas as I did before this thread!    In fact I don't think I'll gripe about it anymore.  

What a good lessen in life, IMO If you not dead, there's always some poor soul's life worst off then yours.

Mike

[Yogi]

I've never even SEEN a 100 oct. pump around here!   

[snaponbob]

I've never even SEEN a 100 oct. pump around here!   

The pumps where I bought VP100 were at a nearby truck stop that has now closed. I contacted the closest regional distributor who referred me to a guy that runs a muffler shop and he sells racing fuel out of his barrels of gas. Here are links to Sunoco and VP distributors.

http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consumer/RaceFuels/DistributorMap/Texas.htm
http://www.asenz360services.com/vpmap/DIST/San_Antonio.html

Expect to pay through the nose !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yogi]

The pumps where I bought VP100 were at a nearby truck stop that has now closed. I contacted the closest regional distributor who referred me to a guy that runs a muffler shop and he sells racing fuel out of his barrels of gas. Here are links to Sunoco and VP distributors.

http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consumer/RaceFuels/DistributorMap/Texas.htm
http://www.asenz360services.com/vpmap/DIST/San_Antonio.html

Expect to pay through the nose !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Bob!
I think that I'll stick to 93.  That's expensive enough for me!

[MGar]

I don't feel NEARLY as bad paying $5.99/gallon for 100 octane here in Vegas as I did before this thread!     In fact I don't think I'll gripe about it anymore. 

It was $6.40/gal for 100 off of Chesebro in Thousand Oaks, CA, just a month ago.  For once, CA is cheaper on gas than the midwest.

[Kelu]

Hey, stop complaining about the price. Around here Sunoco can be found in only one place and it costs 6 Euro/liter without tax so translated in your measurement system, how about $28/Gal?

[HAMMER DOWN]

Hey, stop complaining about the price. Around here Sunoco can be found in only one place and it costs 6 Euro/liter without tax so translated in your measurement system, how about $28/Gal?

Has I said, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^there's always some poor soul's paying more then you.

But don't worry Kelu, the way are Gov. is working & if we don't get a balance in power. Are gas prices will be up with your soon enough. Then the we all can  together.

Mike

[snaponbob]

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[HAMMER DOWN]

^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ Wasn't trying, my post is all related with the cost of fuel.  Which is on topic with this thread.

Mike

[Jebsmith]

Guys... just get meth.  problem solved.  meth is 5ish a gallon, mix it 50/50 with water and bam.  104 octane

[snaponbob]

Guys... just get meth.  problem solved.  meth is 5ish a gallon, mix it 50/50 with water and bam.  104 octane

You do THAT to YOUR LNF, and let us know how THAT works out. 

[Kelu]

Guys... just get meth.  problem solved.  meth is 5ish a gallon, mix it 50/50 with water and bam.  104 octane

You might be wrong with those calculations. Here is why:
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f63/ask-your-water-meth-questions-here-devilsown-63891/index6.html#post980428

[snaponbob]

Gee .................... I have now learned that water is combustible. (Sort of.) Something sounds SO bogus.

[Jebsmith]

Octane is the resistance of gas to combust.  Add some water injection and  you raise the octane.  Am I wrong?  Water does not combust.  It prevents it.

[Jebsmith]

You do THAT to YOUR LNF, and let us know how THAT works out.  

Have been for about 6 months now.  It enables me to make 390whp.  

[Jebsmith]

You might be wrong with those calculations. Here is why:
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f63/ask-your-water-meth-questions-here-devilsown-63891/index6.html#post980428

I read it.  Still no deffinate answer.  Snow performance gave a number of 20+ to octane.  Devils own said no.  Who to believe?  Up to the consumer.  Untill I see a data sheet ill stick with my 104 rating. 

[kennysabarese]

from what i have learned about water meth recently.

methanol has a high octane, but you are only burning a small amount of methanol, so it will only increase the octane of what is burned.

water has no octane, but it will cool things down to prevent pre-ignition of fuel.

Let's say the methanol has 110 octane and you spray 50/50 water methanol mix.

Then let's say you set it up to that when at WOT, 90 percent of what is burned is gas with 93 octane, and the water/meth mix is the other 10 percent.

So that means only 5% of methanol is being burned, which will only increase the octane by a very tiny amount. Maybe not even one whole octane.