Author Topic: Your thoughts and opions on a possible turbo system for my Sol. (Read 25934 times)

spider · « **Reply #50 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:48:35 AM »

He has the newer/weaker rods also, so better safe than sorry. That facia looks nice!

SKY888 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:49:17 AM »

hows the car of Jimmy? is it still running with SC?

the sc kit failed? or the internals?

Houstice · « **Reply #52 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:52:28 AM »

Quote from: Kenny on February 23, 2011, 08:44:09 AM

LE5 is weaker than the LNF. But I only know of one SC failure, our friend Jimmybaha.

Yes,
I asked Dave about this situation before I ordered my Stg. II. There were other elements involved with his problem and not necessarily the internals. I will not say more because it is not my business.

I really feel bad for Jimmybaha and I hope that he was able to find a good solution to his engine failure.

SKY888 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:54:57 AM »

well DDM knows their stuff inside and out. So if he recommends stage 2, then go with stage 2!

get ready to get a neck brace..............lots of whip lashing .....due to instant tq response once you get a supercharger

start whining!!

Houstice · « **Reply #54 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:09:24 AM »

Quote from: spider on February 23, 2011, 08:48:35 AM

He has the newer/weaker rods also, so better safe than sorry. That facia looks nice!

Thanks Mike!!

What you just wrote says it in a nutshell.

I'm in good hands with DDM and PowerFab. They really know their stuff!!

Still waiting for color samples from DDM for the IC pipes and Valve cover. Should arrive this week for Jeremy to compare to my car color. When the kit arrives I'll let you know. They will start with ALL mods when it comes.

Jas

Helios · « **Reply #55 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:46:21 AM »

Quote from: SKY888 on February 23, 2011, 08:13:28 AM

since you'll be keeping your stock internals, I guess DDM is right. Stick with stage 2 to be on the safe side

But I'm not sure, somebody corret me pls..........I thought even with Stage 3, some were running stock internals?

Yes, I have stock internals on my stage 3 not including my ported head. Dave has said he would not feel safe pushing mine any higher without upgrading internals from here. There is a bigger cost to stage 3 than what you see for the kit itself. You have to have a high flow exhaust, upgraded clutch, and long tube headers. For me that was an additional 3k not including labor. I don't know of any stage 3's with upgraded internals yet.

Houstice · « **Reply #56 on:** February 23, 2011, 09:55:14 AM »

Quote from: Helios on February 23, 2011, 09:46:21 AM

Yes, I have stock internals on my stage 3 not including my ported head. Dave has said he would not feel safe pushing mine any higher without upgrading internals from here. There is a bigger cost to stage 3 than what you see for the kit itself. You have to have a high flow exhaust, upgraded clutch, and long tube headers. For me that was an additional 3k not including labor. I don't know of any stage 3's with upgraded internals yet.

Hey Helios,

Which Clutch did you install? Just curious.

Houstice · « **Reply #57 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:06:50 AM »

Quote from: SKY888 on February 23, 2011, 08:42:09 AM

yes Jason, everything will be fine!

You're in good hands with DDM!

They're always available, if your mechanic/you have any questions about the SC kit.

DDM has the best customer service out there, hands down!

Helios · « **Reply #58 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:12:49 AM »

Quote from: Houstice on February 23, 2011, 09:55:14 AM

Hey Helios,

Which Clutch did you install? Just curious.

Initially I had the Exedy stage 2. It could handle the power, but I was getting some annoying resonance and vibration from the clutch. Clutch pedal effort was significantly increased, but not bad once I got used to it. I just had my transmission replaced about a month ago because of gear shifting issues so I also had DDM change my clutch to their stage 3 clutch. Most of the resonance and vibration is gone and clutch pedal effort is much more like it was when it was stock. Coupled with the lighter flywheel of the stage 3 clutch setup throttle response and RPMs climb higher faster. The stage 3 clutch is what I wanted in the first place, but they didn't have one in stock when I burned up my stock clutch.

Critterman · « **Reply #59 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:21:05 AM »

What Hellious said, there are additional costs to a stage III. I already had the header and highflow cat, so I just needed the clutch. Exeddy stage II (makes a man out of you

) Oh and don't forget better tires with the Stage III, much better tires.

Stock internals on my car. Almost 50k on the speedo. Stage III at 36k, Stage II at 24k, Stage I at 10k. Am I the fastest car out there, not by any means, there are a lot of GXP's that have a lot more power than I do, but that is the facts of life, there will always be someone faster. In my opinion the stage II is the best starting point, instant power without major changes, they are a blast to drive. Stage III is a bit of a handfull at times, especially if you do not have traction control.

Helios · « **Reply #60 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:35:51 AM »

Quote from: Critterman on February 23, 2011, 10:21:05 AM

What Hellious said, there are additional costs to a stage III. I already had the header and highflow cat, so I just needed the clutch. Exeddy stage II (makes a man out of you ) Oh and don't forget better tires with the Stage III, much better tires.

Stock internals on my car. Almost 50k on the speedo. Stage III at 36k, Stage II at 24k, Stage I at 10k. Am I the fastest car out there, not by any means, there are a lot of GXP's that have a lot more power than I do, but that is the facts of life, there will always be someone faster. In my opinion the stage II is the best starting point, instant power without major changes, they are a blast to drive. Stage III is a bit of a handfull at times, especially if you do not have traction control.

Oh yeah, I forgot about needing better tires, but I had those along with everything else I needed prior to upgrading to stage 3, but that was all planned. You probably want better brake pads too. I wouldn't have minded keeping the Exedy clutch if it didn't vibrate so much. As far as not having traction control with stage 3; let's just say it makes driving the car very fun and exciting when you step on the gas. I have almost 58k on my odometer; stage 3 at 47k and stage 2 at around 30k. I don't think I'll be totally set until I get 500whp with a project I want DDM to do for me with keeping the M62 SC and adding a rotrex SC for the high end. Dave says they can do it. I can't wait...

Yogi · « **Reply #61 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:14:55 PM »

Sounds like a good plan, Jason! Good luck with your mods!

Arabas · « **Reply #62 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:21:45 PM »

Quote from: Helios on February 23, 2011, 10:35:51 AM

I don't think I'll be totally set until I get 500whp with a project I want DDM to do for me with keeping the M62 SC and adding a rotrex SC for the high end. Dave says they can do it. I can't wait...

the only question Helios is WHEN????
that will be bad ass!!!

Helios · « **Reply #63 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:07:46 PM »

Quote from: Arabas on February 23, 2011, 12:21:45 PM

the only question Helios is WHEN????
that will be bad ass!!!

Let's just say I was very tempted to have it done this spring/ summer. I just had a bunch of money, but opted to put it all toward paying off my car note instead. I may be moving within the next year and I need to clear as much debt as possible before I move. The only major mods I have in the budget this year are Norms hood and possibly the rear fascia. I wish I could dump more money for power this year as Dave, Randy, and I have talked about it over in length. The use of a cog belt will also give my setup a unique sound when my car screams by...

They currently have 3 major builds going on Kappas in their shop so I'll just have to be patient and wait.

Houstice · « **Reply #64 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:10:06 PM »

Quote from: Yogi on February 23, 2011, 12:14:55 PM

Sounds like a good plan, Jason! Good luck with your mods!

Thanks alot Alex for your kind words!

Look forward to seeing you,Norman and the others when I come back in Aug. I hope that we can arrange something. It would be nice and I can show you my new mods!!

Jason

Helios · « **Reply #65 on:** February 23, 2011, 08:46:15 PM »

I forgot about suggesting the center feed fuel rail as well before upgrading to stage 3.

Houstice · « **Reply #66 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:38:11 AM »

Quote from: Helios on February 23, 2011, 08:46:15 PM

I forgot about suggesting the center feed fuel rail as well before upgrading to stage 3.

Thanks Helios,

I asked Dave at DDM if I needed this . He said I didn't. I have seen other threads on the different forums where some have installed the center fuel rail on a Stg.II, but if he said I don't need it , then I'll stick to that. Of course with the Stg.III I would install it.

SKY888 · « **Reply #67 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:28:43 PM »

wow, big $$$ to go stage 3,

good to know

Helios · « **Reply #68 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:52:38 PM »

Quote from: SKY888 on February 24, 2011, 12:28:43 PM

wow, big $$$ to go stage 3,

good to know

Yes, there is a quite a few extra pieces that are recommended or required in addition to the stage 3 setup. If you get the pieces a little bit at a time it doesn't hurt your wallet all at once. Plus it gave me an excuse to go visit the DDM folks and see what other toys they had in the works. I thoroughly enjoy my visits up there as Dave takes me to school on a lot of Kappa performance stuff and I like to pick his brain for information. I wasn't disappointed on my last visit seeing the new projects Dave and Co. were working on plus talking to Dave about my future power plans for my car.

Critterman · « **Reply #69 on:** February 24, 2011, 02:09:23 PM »

Not really that big of bucks, infact they were the same size you just needed more of them. The headers, highflow cat were done before I went stage I. Stage II I didn't make any changes, Stage III added center fuel rail and clutch. I couple of months later I changed tires and wheels which were planed anyway.

So like any build you start with a plan, mine was supposed to stop at StageII, but I got this deal you see.....

Helios · « **Reply #70 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:06:18 PM »

Quote from: Critterman on February 24, 2011, 02:09:23 PM

So like any build you start with a plan, mine was supposed to stop at StageII, but I got this deal you see.....

That's exactly what happened to me. Well, Dave didn't exactly give me a deal I just decided to upgrade at DDM's open house. That was a VERY late night for us. I never imagined I'd be thinking that I would want 500whp out of my car, but here I am too far along to turn back. Either way, I don't regret for a minute my decision to go SC'd.

Houstice · « **Reply #71 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:57:27 PM »

Well with this mod project that I am doing now, I'm allready eliminating a few needed requirements for the Stage III. Those being my exhaust sytem, high flow cat and 4-1 headers. The only things left would be a clutch and the fuel rail.

You know Dave told that there are a couple of people driving the Stage III with the stock clutch. I guess it really depends on your driving style.

SKY888 · « **Reply #72 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:58:50 PM »

jason, so why not go with stage 3 then? (playing devil's advocate again!) lol

Houstice · « **Reply #73 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:02:15 PM »

Quote from: SKY888 on February 24, 2011, 03:58:50 PM

jason, so why not go with stage 3 then? (playing devil's advocate again!) lol

AAAHH.....HHAAAAA!!!! There you go again!!!

Helios · « **Reply #74 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:35:50 PM »

Quote from: Houstice on February 24, 2011, 03:57:27 PM

You know Dave told that there are a couple of people driving the Stage III with the stock clutch. I guess it really depends on your driving style.

The stock clutch can handle Stage III if you baby it. For me, the temptation to floor it and drive-like-I-stole-it is too great. I have WAY too much fun in my car. I mean what's the purpose of all the extra power if you aren't going to use it?

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