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Offline Brazen17

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Treadware Rating
« on: January 24, 2011, 11:13:29 AM »
Need some opinions on a good treadware rating compromise between longevity and grip. I was thinking something in the 220 range.   :cheers:
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 11:52:33 AM »
That sounds pretty soft to me.  But just remember, there's lies, damned lies and treadware ratings!  Actual wear based on ratings is probably only comparable within brands.
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 12:03:06 PM »
What do you plan to be doing with the car? Do you need grip for autocross or road racing?

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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 12:05:21 PM »
220 is soft and will wear quickly.
I would look in the 300's
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 12:14:22 PM »
What do you plan to be doing with the car? Do you need grip for autocross or road racing?
What do you plan to be doing with the car? Do you need grip for autocross or road racing?

I have been thinking about weekend auto X'ing but will still be driving it on the street. I Hankook Ventus now and they are rated at 280 but I would like a bit more grip.
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 12:15:06 PM »
But just remember, there's lies, damned lies and treadware ratings!

Aren't they all!
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 12:16:14 PM »
220 is soft and will wear quickly.
I would look in the 300's

Is there a "Happy Gilmore" happy place in between?
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 01:18:14 PM »
All you ever wanted to know and then some about treadwear:

http://www.tire-information-world.com/tire-treadwear.html


PS.  Play with the air pressure on your current tires.   Place chaulk marks on the outside edge of your tires up to and including the shoulder.   Do a run, not touching the chaulk let some air out.  Running half way down the side of the tire add air.

bottom line you want to be out to the edge of the shoulder, maybe slightly beyond.

your milage might vary.
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 02:24:31 PM »
200 is the lowest you can go before changing classes in Auto-X.  Stock tires for the GXP/Redline is a 360 and they sucked.

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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 03:43:43 PM »
200 is the lowest you can go before changing classes in Auto-X.  Stock tires for the GXP/Redline is a 360 and they sucked.

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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 12:17:53 AM »
200 is the lowest you can go before changing classes in Auto-X.  Stock tires for the GXP/Redline is a 360 and they sucked.
That just goes to prove my "don't believe treadware ratings" line.  Our Conti DWS's are rated 540 and still have better dry grip than the OEMs!

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tires/continental/product/submitProductSize.do?r=AZDINT&pc=26881
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 06:26:08 AM »
I agree

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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2011, 10:24:57 AM »
My NITTO NT05s are 200.

They are daily driven, and last me about 12,000 miles.

They provide me with stability and grip........

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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2011, 11:02:00 AM »
My NITTO NT05s are 200.

They are daily driven, and last me about 12,000 miles.

They provide me with stability and grip........



At the rate I drive I would need to replace them twice a year! But they do sound like a nice tire...I just need to stop driving it so much. Of course that will never happen!
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2011, 11:15:28 AM »
There's really pros and cons :)

if you want less grip...you get more mileage

if you want more grip....you get less mileage

I like to ENJOY driving my car, and get the a decent mileage.   200 treadwear for me, is a happy medium :)
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Re: Treadware Rating
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2011, 11:24:48 AM »
There's really pros and cons :)

if you want less grip...you get more mileage

if you want more grip....you get less mileage

I like to ENJOY driving my car, and get the a decent mileage.   200 treadwear for me, is a happy medium :)

I might just have to try them and see.
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