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Offline MomsSol

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Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« on: January 23, 2009, 06:39:03 PM »
SAVE THE KAPPA

Please go to this link and read the info posted.

Now is the time to let GM know how much we really care about these cars!
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 08:10:20 PM »
BEEN THERE DONE THAT  :thumbs: -- Just now --- and as usual MomsSol beat me to posting here. :gaah:  Any way to billboard this more?  :dancing:

If you haven't gone there and signed up, what are you waiting for?
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2009, 09:03:39 PM »
I sent mine direct to a friend at GM!

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2009, 09:12:12 PM »
Done!

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2009, 09:28:51 PM »
This is something that we need everyone to participate in.  :thumbs:
Just trying to do my part...

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2009, 09:42:53 PM »
BEEN THERE DONE THAT  :thumbs: -- Just now --- and as usual MomsSol beat me to posting here. :gaah:  Any way to billboard this more?  :dancing:

If you haven't gone there and signed up, what are you waiting for?
DO IT NOW



Sorry Cheers... I kind of had an inside scoop to the story! :D  Like ... last week!  :cool:
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2009, 10:18:03 PM »
That's alright JUST NEED TO GET EVERYONE INVOLVED

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2009, 01:08:39 PM »
Signed the petition, unfortunately even if the Sol gets saved i think my Sky is doomed  :(
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2009, 04:40:06 PM »
Not to be a wet blanket here or anything, but the track record of these types of internet petitions has about as much effect on things as...well....as...the internet "boycott gas stations to teach them a lesson and to get them to lower their prices".  They truly are just a way to make people feel like their doing something, when in fact, no one that counts, gives a rats buttock.

Having said that, I personally do no see a downside to the Kappa platform being shut down, other than the very downside of people losing their jobs which nobody wants to see.  I love the fact that where I live, I can go for weeks on end without seeing another car like mine!  90% of the stock parts in our cars came out of the parts bin of parts already in use anyway, so it's not like the parts will get too hard to find.  The only down side I see is there would be less after market activity because it's not really worth it to produce parts for a more rare car.  On the bright side, I already have all the aftermarket parts I will probably ever want anyway, so this is not that bad for me personally.

So if anyone starts up a petition to Kill the Kappa, I would probably think about jumping on that waste of time instead!  Just my own opinion, no need to flame me, but feel free to educate me :)
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2009, 05:07:23 PM »
Not to be a wet blanket here or anything, but the track record of these types of internet petitions has about as much effect on things as...well....as...the internet "boycott gas stations to teach them a lesson and to get them to lower their prices".  They truly are just a way to make people feel like their doing something, when in fact, no one that counts, gives a rats buttock.

Having said that, I personally do no see a downside to the Kappa platform being shut down, other than the very downside of people losing their jobs which nobody wants to see.  I love the fact that where I live, I can go for weeks on end without seeing another car like mine!  90% of the stock parts in our cars came out of the parts bin of parts already in use anyway, so it's not like the parts will get too hard to find.  The only down side I see is there would be less after market activity because it's not really worth it to produce parts for a more rare car.  On the bright side, I already have all the aftermarket parts I will probably ever want anyway, so this is not that bad for me personally.

So if anyone starts up a petition to Kill the Kappa, I would probably think about jumping on that waste of time instead!  Just my own opinion, no need to flame me, but feel free to educate me :)
I understand your point KWhale .. but this is more that just an Internet petition.  This is people writing letters, hopefully several to key GM leaders, in support of the Kappa program.  Maybe it won't keep the production going for another 5,10,15 years - but, what it will do is show GM and Pontiac the excitement, the joy, the community, that this platform has brought to life and how we, the enthusiasts wish to see it survive.

I've corresponded with Bob Lutz on a couple of occasions before ... I *know* he will recognize my name.  I firmly believe that my personal letter will get his attention.  It may not cause the Kappa to continue but I know it will help spur the cause.  :thumbs:
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2009, 06:13:27 PM »
 :agree: It cost very little time or money and it is like Lotto -- you have little chance of winning if you don't play   :2c:

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2009, 06:52:34 PM »
What I 'd like to see is a stretched out kappa platform that would suit a small 4 wheel drive truck chasis.. Like my 2001 Tacoma (old style).. There is enough torque and horsepower ..frame is nearly beefy enough.. a change of about 20" on wheelbase would give enough space for a supercab with a 5 foot box.. just thinking..
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 05:21:34 PM »
I've received some correspondence from 'someone on the list' and they said "keep those cards and letters coming!"

Just a tidbit of info .. there have been a substantial number of orders for the Coupe this month - production is still scheduled to begin eom!

We're not dead yet!!!  :woohoo:
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 05:26:42 PM »
AWESOME!!!!

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 05:46:45 PM »
Talked to my dealer today and her said late Spring Early Summer

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 06:18:09 PM »
Talked to my dealer today and her said late Spring Early Summer
Wilmington is to open by EOM ... production of the Coupe (with 225 orders this month  :woohoo: ) to start end of March with delivery in April.  Allocation demand is HIGH for the Coupe ... a GOOD thing!  Of course ... this is not set in stone .... yet!  But, this is some very good news for the Kappa Platform! :thumbs:
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2009, 06:57:27 PM »
I went to the link, and followed through.  Hopefully our efforts will make a difference for the sake of the "Kappa".  I sure hope so.  GM has a lot of resources tied to this platform, however in this type of deal, the beancounters play a big role.  We all know what is at stake.
I sincerely hope GM keeps it alive.  Great news MomsSol on the Coupe with 225 orders in the first month.  Can't wait to drive one.
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 09:16:03 PM »
Dear Fellow Members,

I took a look at the "Save The Kappa" site; it was very touching.  However, as I looked through their "mission statement" and other articles, one key idea seemed to be missing: PROFITS!  I know this is a dirty word today with Karl Marx living in the White House, but, at least at present, this is still the driving force behind corporate decisions.  AS IS IT SHOULD BE!

Sending love letters to Mr. Lutz is all very well, but if you want to get GM's attention, then show them that these cars will produce revenue in the future.  The only way to do that is through sales.  I'm sure with all the people on these forums, you can come up ideas that may produce tangible results, ie. money.

For example;

1) If you own a GXP, go to your nearest dealership and buy the Stage II upgrade (before you spend money on non-GM aftermarket products.)
2) Throw a "Kappa" party at a dealership and bring a friend in to buy a car.  Then email the photos to GM.
3) Get a large organization to BUY a car and donate it to charity or raffle it off.
4) If you can afford it, buy another Solstice.
5) Say here's an idea: Hand write your love letter to Mr. Lutz instead of emailing it and accompany it with a photocopy of your PURCHASE ORDER FOR GM STOCK!

As the old saying goes, "Money talks and BS walks."  I like my Sostice as much as anyone, and I will be showing GM that by getting the upgrade at my dealership. But, if in the end, they decide to end the Kappa run, so be it.  In light of the fact that those idiots in Washington are loaning them my money (and yours) to keep them alive, GM management should be making decisions based on profitability and return on investment, not huggs and kisses.

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2009, 09:05:09 AM »
Why does someone always have to interject some moronic political view in what would otherwise be a great car site????????
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 09:21:32 AM »
Why does someone always have to interject some moronic political view in what would otherwise be a great car site????????

Because that is the way each of us is different ... what is 'moronic' to you may not be to others.  We are all individuals and view things differently .. I understand what 30 is trying to say, yet on the other hand I do not agree with it 100%, but - I can give him the leeway in most of his text.

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2009, 08:10:54 PM »
Because that is the way each of us is different ... what is 'moronic' to you may not be to others.  We are all individuals and view things differently .. I understand what 30 is trying to say, yet on the other hand I do not agree with it 100%, but - I can give him the leeway in most of his text.


Actually, with the exception of the one sentence, I agree with most of what 30 West purports. If the Kappa platform is to survive, GM will need more sales, more GM performance parts sold, and more events that bring this wonderful car in view of the public. What the “bean-counters” tend to forget is that these specialty vehicles bring many potential buyers into the showrooms and they leave purchasing other GM products. Over the years many thousands upon thousands of people have come into the dealership looking at a GTO or Firebird and have left with a LeMans or Catalina.

The point of my original comment is let us keep this a CAR FORUM!!!!!
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2009, 05:42:04 PM »
My car has been admired by my coworkers, drooled over by people in parking lots and I have sent people to my dealer and have seen some of them buy Saturn vehicles. I feel like I have done my part and I continue to tout the car and the platform. I ask for nothing in return from my dealer, and I know they pay finder's fees. The service department treats me so well I feel like I benefit from the good will that I have given. I will mourn the loss of Saturn and the loss of my Saturn service department.  :cryin:

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2009, 11:03:05 PM »
I guess this thread is useless now

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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2009, 06:35:35 AM »
I guess this thread is useless now
It would appear as much  :cryin:

No wonder BO wanted to get Wagoner out of the way and let Fritz rule.  :gaah:
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Re: Save the Kappa ... The Time is NOW!
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2009, 11:55:00 AM »
The thread is worthless, the car platform is priceless!  :brnout: :drag: