Topic: throw out bearing??

[Aspenrose]

based on what started on Thursday, I'd guess whatever we have that's equivalent to the tob has started failing- whirring noise rolling up to a stop, until I can get the clutch fully engaged. figures, being a long way from home. so far it's not affecting how it shifts, still 500 miles from home, but looking at options, if I have to go in, should I do the clutch at the same time, will have 105k by the time I get home.

[1LILNDN]

I would ,In the past when the throw-out bearing is growling I've did pressure plate,and disc .Thats in the older Cars .wouldn't think it is any different in newer cars. with 105,000 think its time anyway

  hope this helps

[Aspenrose]

I would ,In the past when the throw-out bearing is growling I've did pressure plate,and disc .Thats in the older Cars .wouldn't think it is any different in newer cars. with 105,000 think its time anyway

  hope this helps

appreciate any and all input, I've owned a LOT of hi-perfect manual tranny cars over the years, never ever had to do either a clutch or tob. I drive it hard, but not as hard as many. any input as to after market options, which would be better than replacing with 'stock' parts?

[Critterman]

DDM has an organic clutch that feels the same as stock but is much stronger, they also have heavier clutches.

Since you have to pull the trans any way, get the flywheel resurfaced, new clutch, pressure plate, and slave cylinder/throwout bearing

[DeepBlueGXP]

damn, I was hoping these cars would last longer on this stuff.    Sorry to hear yours is becoming a money pit. 

[Rogue]

100K miles on an OEM clutch/pressure plate/tob is a very nice number! Before statring the job confirm it is indeed the tob, and if so, do the entire assembly at one time...the other parts won't be far behind.

[Aspenrose]

Wish it had started misbehaving when we first got to NC, I'd a run it straight to DDM, time to find a shop local that's gonna be willing to work with me,and not be insisting on replacing only with stock parts, like my Former Stealer

[Aspenrose]

damn, I was hoping these cars would last longer on this stuff.    Sorry to hear yours is becoming a money pit. 

After this is done, not much left, tranny itself, shocks, brakes, thats still original

[Critterman]

100k you should probably replace the shocks they are past their life.  Replace the tran fluid while it is out as well

[Aspenrose]

100k you should probably replace the shocks they are past their life.  Replace the tran fluid while it is out as well

looks like I'll have some $$ for shocks, turns out the whining and chatter was not the tob, dealer forgot to put in all 5 quarts of M1, stopped to fuel up this morning, and checked the oil, somehow 3+ quarts had gone AWOL...will check it again in the morning, after I let it get up to temp, I only put 3 in, stopped when it finally showed up on the stick...but it's not leaking, nor blowing smoke, and I've had one Sol watching my backside for the last few days.

[Brad Kenny]

That's good news Apenrose. So I can only assume that the whirring noise abated once the oil was added? That's good to hear! Shocks... Now there is a delima as large as the KAPPA platform itself. Do you stay with stock, FE2, FE3, Z0K, KW, BC, or some other after market brand... Choices, choices...

Have fun deciding which way you want to go. I look forward to hearing all about it.

[DaveOC]

That's both good and bad news. Good news in that it's NOT the slave cylinder and a very expensive repair. Bad news is that I hope you didn't do any engine damage running 3K miles with so little oil in the crankcase.

I hope everything is OK now.

[DeepBlueGXP]

OUCH!!!

[Aspenrose]

update, I am indeed burning oil, and while I start the process of talking to Pontiac Customer Service (they called me while I was on vacation, regarding my survey response for the foobarred head gasket etc work), I am also following up leads on replacement 2.4 engines. From the source I found, 2007 is the 'magic' year, way too many totaled NA Solsti in salvage yards everywhere. Looks like the average $ is about $800, so once I locate the one I want, I'll begin the search for a shop to do the swap. Until then, will keep a few quarts of M1 and a funnel in the Sol, and check the oil every fill up. Rough guesstimate is it's burning up a quart every 700 miles or so.

[Gentleman Jack]

Perhaps someone is doing a v8 swap and you can have theirs?  The 2.4 not just used in the Sol, many many options...

Someone will also suggest the 2.0T, but I'm guessing you want to stay 2.4?

[Aspenrose]

Perhaps someone is doing a v8 swap and you can have theirs?  The 2.4 not just used in the Sol, many many options...

Someone will also suggest the 2.0T, but I'm guessing you want to stay 2.4?

it is in a lot of other cars, but most, if not all others are FWD, and don't want a turbo, just a clean swap. will be checking with Mallett, and the other vendors, but there are a ton of totaled 07 Solsti in junkyards. not sure what that means, but most I found have under 30k on the odo, one with only 8k.

[Gentleman Jack]

Not sure it matters that they are in fwd cars, you'll be reusing enough of your stock parts.  Same exact engine.

If I can be if any help here on the far left, let me know.

[Brad Kenny]

update, I am indeed burning oil, and while I start the process of talking to Pontiac Customer Service (they called me while I was on vacation, regarding my survey response for the foobarred head gasket etc work), I am also following up leads on replacement 2.4 engines. From the source I found, 2007 is the 'magic' year, way too many totaled NA Solsti in salvage yards everywhere. Looks like the average $ is about $800, so once I locate the one I want, I'll begin the search for a shop to do the swap. Until then, will keep a few quarts of M1 and a funnel in the Sol, and check the oil every fill up. Rough guesstimate is it's burning up a quart every 700 miles or so.

Sorry to hear about this. Glad to see you plan on staying with the 2.4L. Woohoo!!!

[Critterman]

Mel that is a bit excessive are you sure that it isn't leaking anywhere? 

[snaponbob]

it is in a lot of other cars, but most, if not all others are FWD, and don't want a turbo, just a clean swap. will be checking with Mallett, and the other vendors, but there are a ton of totaled 07 Solsti in junkyards. not sure what that means, but most I found have under 30k on the odo, one with only 8k.

Mallett went under a couple years ago. Werks or DDM may have a lead. Maybe e-bay for a complete until.

[Critterman]

Wade's garage in WV  google it.  Not sure if he has any left or not.

[Aspenrose]

Mel that is a bit excessive are you sure that it isn't leaking anywhere? 

I'm sure that it is burning the oil, may be a leak, minimal at best, but I know what I've cleaned off the rear, multiple times, and tried to clean out of the tail pipe. beyond any normal person's definition of normal.
once I get the oil analysis back, I'll know more about the damage done internally, so, honestly, if you could pick up a good engine with low miles for, say $600, would you do that, or dump $2-3k in making an high miles engine right again. At this point, I'd love to have my $2800 back from the head gasket & water pump job.

[Critterman]

Do you plan on adding anything to the engine at a later day, power enhancement of any sort?  If so I would get the spare and either build it with stronger parts or if you can afford the down time, get your motor rebuilt with the stronger parts.

Kathy followed you for miles and miles right?  Did she notice any smoke at all?

[MomsSol]

John..there was never, ever any big billowing clouds of black smoke.. nothing like what you would expect from burning oil. But every thing she has read w regard to this engine is that it just "puffs" and mostly at start..then ever so slight that it's not really noticeable.

[Critterman]

Using that much oil it should be visible,  Do you guys know anyone in the area that can do a compression check, and look it over for you, I still think it has to be leaking if it isn't smoking.