I looked through all of my emails up here (sorry I am not at the shop right now, but an event on the mountains). I found a email correspondence with Jeremy were I did send a base tune over with the turbo to them to get things started. Then I asked for any kind of log, none could be provided. Then they tried another tune (not supplied by us), then they tuned it on the Dyno (once again not by us)and has the issue with the turbo. So I was wrong in the earlier statement that I never tuned their car, I did send a base tune file to get them to get them going, but was not able to make any adjustments to it without any kind of logs from them. There was at least 2 more tunes made to the car after the base tune was sent to them which were not done by us, based on the emails from Jeremy that I have.
Maybe you should ask Jeremy who tuned the car on the dyno on September 13th, or the tune that he said they did on August 23rd. These were both after the original base tune was sent around the 20th of August and both of them did not invoke us.
Thanks Dave, I think we both had bad information and memory issues on this, I think we can put it to bed now. All I ever heard was you tuned it. If all I wanted to do was "bash" vendors, don't you think I would have run with that info a year ago? No, I only brought it up when I was pushed into a corner. I now believe, from what Jeremy has told me, that there was a 3rd party doing changes to your base tune. That was not you, and it was not me either. When I specifically asked about the Sonoma race, he said you weren't available and they were using "someone else" to make changes to try to get the car running. That was all before I was involved.
I think my statement about my intentions with vendors needs to be reiterated. I'm not "out to get" or "talk trash about" ANY vendor. I simply state what most people are scared to say. Do I think DDM is a good vendor with a good company? ABSOLUTELY. Does that mean I think there's a viable excuse for taking a year and a half on a customers V/8 job? No. Do PERSONALLY like the 2871 turbo? No. Does that mean I will never buy a product from DDM? ABSOLUTELY NOT. (In case the double negative is confusing, I'm saying I would absolutely buy, and have in the past bought products from DDM.) Do I also think the ZZP 5th injector kit is garbage? ABSOLUTELY. Is everything they make or sell garbage? No. And BTW, them "turning me down" for a sponsorship is hilarious. Yes, I did send them an email stating that I was looking for a vendor to WORK WITH. I also sent that email to 4 other vendors. I worked with Dave at Performance Autowerks for one reason, I had a good feeling about him and his ability to get me a turbo kit in a timely fashion. He came through. Did he get more from me than I got from him? I'm betting if you asked him he'd say yes. Do I think his design tube manifold (the one I got in the kit) is a good product? H#LL NO. Mine cracked, along with probably every other one he sold. Would I still buy products or work with him? Absolutely. And the part about "sponsorship"? Um yeah, you'll all say I'm "bragging" again, but let's just say I didn't, and never have needed anyone's help doing any of my projects. I connect with different people and vendors not so much for what I can get out of them, but what I can GIVE to them. It's ALWAYS an even exchange, or a Win-Win.
That's my point. We're all humans. We all do things that are good and bad. I'm just the one that gets passionate about things like cr@ppy 5th injector kits, or guys making completely false statements, or vendors saying things I don't believe are accurate. You guys can make it so I don't feel like ever coming back here, that's fine. This forum will be fine, or as fine as a dead car forum can be. I'll tell you this though, if there aren't guys like me that aren't afraid to go against the grain and question what people say, this forum will go back to being it's boring self. Can anyone of you guys that were bashing me say this forum hasn't been this exciting in months? Try talking about things that really matter instead of Cars and Coffee or Lambo door cr@p.
Thanks again for clearing that one point up Dave, I appreciate it. Your statement about not ever tuning the GMG car was against what I believed to be true. I have no problem with you as a vendor. What makes a cr@ppy vendor is if no one questions or cares about the products they sell or the job they do. I guess all I can say is I've dropped in on these forums every once in awhile to try to keep vendors, and other forum members, "honest"! That's all. If anyone remembers, that's why I left this forum before. Snapon Bob kept telling people that E85 was evil and everyone's car would blow up if you put it in your tank. I saw what he was saying and had to let people know the truth, which has since proved correct. I got tired of trying to convince him, so I gave up trying. Meanwhile I, and others that wanted to listen and learn, went on using E85 to make our engines run better.
This is all so unproductive it's ridiculous. I said I was leaving and going back to my family, projects and life. Let's ALL do that.
BTW, LV if you need help finding parts to do the EFR kit, PM me and I'll help you. I believe you're one of the "good" ones and I still have your brace on our other car. (Won't work on the LSA car.) I have a Werks tube manifold that was repaired by Chris at Stainless Headers. It's the one I originally had on my car with the EFR. It cracked in a couple places, Chris did a good job repairing it, but it is the first cr@ppy design one. If you want to run it on your car, I'll GIVE it to you. It's never been run after it was repaired. I'm sure it would work fine for a casual driven car.