Author Topic: How many Daewoo G2X where built ? (Read 11055 times)

RedOne07 · « **on:** January 31, 2014, 06:13:45 AM »

Does any one know how many where built ?

Sly Bob · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2014, 11:39:03 AM »

Not a lot but I can't seem to find it anywhere...

ihawk95 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2014, 11:54:53 AM »

Dave O'Connor will know. Do a search on either the Sol or Sky side. He has a list showing the breakdown for Kappas built. I believe the Daewoo's are on it also.

DaveOC · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:10:55 PM »

Quote from: ihawk95 on January 31, 2014, 11:54:53 AM

Dave O'Connor will know. Do a search on either the Sol or Sky side. He has a list showing the breakdown for Kappas built. I believe the Daewoo's are on it also.

Gosh, it's great to have fans . . . JK.

No Daewoos on my list, well, to be perfectly honest, all the Daewoos are on my list, they're just identified as Saturn Skys, not as Daewoos. When GM reported production figures, they reported the Daewoos as Skys, as the only differences were in the badging. The Opel GTs were reported as Opel GTs because there were internal and external differences from the Saturn Skys.

So, long story short, nobody today knows precisely how many Daewoo G2Xs were built, nor do they know exactly how many Saturn Skys were built. I'm sure there is someone who worked at Wilmington that knows the answer, but I've never seen a number posted anywhere.

Note that this does not mean that no one has ever posted that number, only that I've never seen it or written it down.

Regardless, There were very few Daewoos made, probably less than 500, which is a pure guesstimate on my part.

Sorry that I don't have an answer for you.

Sly Bob · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:21:26 PM »

THAT'S why I can't find it, forgot about that. Thanks Dave.

You might see if you can find Korean sales figures for the G2x Maarten, that would give you some idea.

DaveOC · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:00:42 PM »

Quote from: RedOne07 on January 31, 2014, 12:37:36 PM

Does this mean that in the future when buying a Daewoo G2X it could be a re-badged Saturn Sky with badges from a scrapped Daewoo G2X and that there would be absolutely no way to find that out ?

I don't know how to answer that, but I suppose it is a possibility. I don't know if the Daewoos had different VIN numbers. Solstices start with 1G2, Skys with 1G8, Opels with 1G0.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:03:03 PM »

Quote from: RedOne07 on January 31, 2014, 12:37:36 PM

Does this mean that in the future when buying a Daewoo G2X it could be a re-badged Saturn Sky with badges from a scrapped Daewoo G2X and that there would be absolutely no way to find that out ?

Probably. Sounds like you can't tell from the VIN so unless you can get a history as to where the car was sold, you wouldn't know.

Sly Bob · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:09:52 PM »

Yeah I suppose you could get a dealer to run the VIN and see if the car was a Saturn or a Daewoo when it left the factory.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:17:27 PM »

Quote from: Sly Bob on January 31, 2014, 01:09:52 PM

Yeah I suppose you could get a dealer to run the VIN and see if the car was a Saturn or a Daewoo when it left the factory.

This is my guess as well. Of if you could somehow get your hands on the build sheet. Gotta be a way to find out which way they were badged. But it's not promising if Dave doesn't have the numbers! I thought he had all the numbers, right down to the color of the 2010's!

ihawk95 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:19:35 PM »

Here's something we could try...throw it out on the big boards and see if someone owns one. Seems like there was one guy on there that had one. If you could get ahold of him, he could help out with the VIN info and compare notes. Then we could tell if there is an identifier in the VIN. I haven't checked the forums yet, but I'm guessing the info isn't posted.

Sly Bob · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:29:17 PM »

I know we have G2X owners here as well.

DaveOC · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:41:42 PM »

Quote from: Sly Bob on January 31, 2014, 01:09:52 PM

Yeah I suppose you could get a dealer to run the VIN and see if the car was a Saturn or a Daewoo when it left the factory.

That would work, you'd have to scan the results for the RPO which stood for the "conversion to Daewoo". Maybe I have a reference to that RPO somewhere. If I do I'll edit this post to include it.

EDIT: Can't find the RPO Code.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:52:17 PM »

OK, I found it. There is an identifier in the VIN.

I pulled this off a post on the Sky Side:

"According to the VIN decoder site, for model year 2008, there were 120 Skys built with these codes :

DRX - MODEL CONVERSION DAEWOO DAEWOO(DRX)
CW1 - COUNTRY KOREA(EXPORT) KOREA(CW1)

I suspect that means that there were 120 Daewoo Kappas for 2008."

DaveOC · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:58:12 PM »

Quote from: ihawk95 on January 31, 2014, 01:52:17 PM

DRX - MODEL CONVERSION DAEWOO DAEWOO(DRX)
CW1 - COUNTRY KOREA(EXPORT) KOREA(CW1)

Way to go! Not an identifier in the VIN, but those are the RPO option codes I was looking for. Too bad Compnine doesn't show all those codes any more.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2014, 02:03:01 PM »

Quote from: DaveOC on January 31, 2014, 01:58:12 PM

Way to go! Not an identifier in the VIN, but those are the RPO option codes I was looking for. Too bad Compnine doesn't show all those codes any more.

Yes...that's what mbeardsley posted on the Sky Side. I'm still looking to see if there is any more info.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2014, 02:14:00 PM »

The only other possibility is if you pull the VIN sheets for 2008, you see Saturn has 2 VIN Codes:
1G8, W08

http://service.gm.com/dealerworld/vincards/pdf/vincard08%2006-01-09%20r1.1.pdf

Oh wait...I just saw a post from a G2X owner on the HPTuners forum. There is definitely something unique to the VIN:

"Somebody help me~
I'm korean. MY english is not good..

My car is G2X, from GM-daewoo.
Do you know G2X? It's one of kappa flatforms, same with GXP, saturn sky redline and opelGT.
I bought a turbokit from U.S. because there is no shop tuning G2X in korea.
I finished installing turbokit, but have a problem in tuning ECM.
The VIN/OS pair error occured!!
I can read ECM and make a hpt file. But I can't get license.

The VCMsuite can't recognize the VIN of G2X.
VIN numbering of G2X is different from saturn, pontiac, or opelGT.

I mailed to support and ask help. He is finding a way but it seems difficult..

As I think, there are 2 ways to go.
First, the developer update the VCM suite to recognize korean version, G2X.

Second, Changing the VIN.
I went to daewoo-dealershop and ask to change VIN temporarily, until finish the tune. But they said no.

I wonder how I change my VIN.
And what should I do?"

Sly Bob · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2014, 02:38:34 PM »

Nice find, I found this too. Specifically mentions the G2X

DaveOC · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2014, 03:04:09 PM »

Quote from: Sly Bob on January 31, 2014, 02:38:34 PM

Nice find, I found this too. Specifically mentions the G2X

You and ihawk are putting my search skills to shame today. Super find!

Daewoo G2x VINs start with "5GD"

ihawk95 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2014, 03:27:15 PM »

Well at least we know a little more than before. Doesn't give us a number produced, but it might help with a better guesstimate.

My life on the internet pays off once in awhile I guess.

Sly Bob · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2014, 03:59:47 PM »

Quote from: ihawk95 on January 31, 2014, 03:27:15 PM

My life on the internet pays off once in awhile I guess.

I hear ya...

Checked a 2008 document and the same numbers in regards to the VIN holds true.

DaveOC · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:08:58 PM »

Quote from: RedOne07 on January 31, 2014, 12:37:36 PM

Does this mean that in the future when buying a Daewoo G2X it could be a re-badged Saturn Sky with badges from a scrapped Daewoo G2X and that there would be absolutely no way to find that out ?

Now we can answer this question. Sky VINs start with 1G8, Opel VINs start with 1G0, and Daewoo VINs start with 5GD.

As to how many were made, I have seen a picture from one of the Wilmington plant tours that specified that there were 153 Daewoos produced during that current year. I'm pretty sure that included the 120 that were identified in one of the posts in this thread, as the people at Wilmington were apt to refer to the calendar year as the current year, so that 153 probably crossed over a model year boundary. No one really knows, at least no one who hangs out on the forums.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:21:18 PM »

Well crap...I just had a post on the Sky Side with a link to several links to all the VIN card info for various years. And of course now I can't for the life of me find the post. Rob the Elder posted it.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2014, 04:25:59 PM »

Found it! For your reference:

http://service.gm.com/dealerworld/vincards/

Strange these don't show the Daewoo for 2010 like SlyBob's pdf. Hmmm...old info maybe?

reedred · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2014, 01:22:47 AM »

This says 179 were sold: http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20110206000109

I don't know where the numbers came from though.

RedOne07 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 06, 2021, 12:18:08 PM »

Quote from: RedOne07 on January 31, 2014, 06:13:45 AM

Does any one know how many where built ?

Well . . . . . . . there is a dude over at the Solstice forum who has a pretty good idea how many were built . . . .

https://www.solsticeforum.com/threads/kappa-production-numbers-based-on-vin.145273/

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