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Offline SHiNY

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Brake Stutter?
« on: February 24, 2009, 06:58:06 AM »
Yes, I have the 2008 Manual Redline and know all about the brake issues. I only experienced the brakes locking once but got an error code several times "SVC Brake System", which neither Onstar nor the dealership could explain. So, I had the dealership do the TSB on the brakes and I assumed everything was okay. It's intermittent so you never really can tell.

However, the other morning I was attempting to stop for a school bus when my brakes didn't completely lock but rather they seemed to stutter. (Not sure how else to describe it.) It was as if I was pushing down on the brake pedal and several times the pedal locked and released, almost as if it was fighting against my foot. Needless to say the car eventually stopped, but not the best thing to happen when you are trying to stop for a school bus. And no, I wasn't going very fast.

Has anyone else ever heard of this? :huh:

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 07:41:12 AM »
That is your ABS system engaging and it is exactly what you are supposed to feel when it does.  The question is should it have engaged when it did?  If you pressed the brakes hard and the surface was low in traction.  Everything worked as it should

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 08:00:16 AM »
I love it when you talk that talk Chuck, I would also wonder if the ABS should have been active in that situation. I think I would visit the dealer and have the brakes bled if nothing else, seems like they may have created the problem by not properly bleeding the barkes after the TSB

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 09:38:56 AM »
Like chuck said, if you were in low traction, i.e.  salt/sand/etc and applied the brakes, the ABS will take over.  It works by detecting if one wheel is moving faster than the other while brakes are applied. 
If that isn't the case and you experience this a few times, see if you figure out a way to duplicate it so you can demonstrate the problem to the dealer.

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 02:34:31 PM »
I am a quick study.  Are I not,  Goat?  See I listen when you guys talk
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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 06:02:59 PM »
The first time I hit the brakes hard enough to engage the ABS I was thinking, "What was _that_?" After I realized it was the ABS, I felt a bit foolish, but this is the first car I've had with that feature. It works well when you need it!
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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 06:35:36 PM »
The first time you experience it, it will sure make you take a bite out of your seat.
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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 08:24:02 PM »
The first time I hit the brakes hard enough to engage the ABS I was thinking, "What was _that_?" After I realized it was the ABS, I felt a bit foolish, but this is the first car I've had with that feature. It works well when you need it!

Thank goodness, I thought I was the only one. I have never had a car with ABS brakes so this is all new to me.

I appreciate all the feedback guys!

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 02:17:50 AM »
I am a quick study.  Are I not,  Goat?  See I listen when you guys talk
They grow up so fast!  :cryin: I remember when you thought ABS was Advanced Bowel Syndrom...

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2009, 07:43:21 AM »
Trust me Goat,  IBS or DJD is better than ED.  just need NSAIDs.

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2009, 08:25:35 AM »
Did you know that Wonder Woman is the National Spokesperson for IBS, and I had an old girlfriend that used to call me ED, I just called her Cialis. I have DJD and take NSAID's for it.

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 09:41:40 AM »
hey, this isn't the secret code post so cut it out :lol:

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 03:12:03 PM »
One more:

If I ever get ED, I hope I'm DRT other wise I'm just CTD and GDA.....

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2009, 04:08:01 PM »
Def, the only way you would get ED is if you had CAD, ESRD, CHF and COPD.  In that case I would make you DOA
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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2009, 04:14:38 PM »
:lol: at least I know the last acronym

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2009, 04:23:36 PM »
It defineitely wouldn't be DTLOI!

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2009, 04:27:03 PM »
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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2009, 04:36:17 PM »
IDK, it might be from ESRD since I take so many NSAIDs for the TE(LE) that I have developed from working out that specific region...

At least my PSA will be WNL so no chance of CA.
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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2009, 08:20:36 PM »
Is there really anything WNL with you Def?

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Re: Brake Stutter?
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2009, 05:40:44 AM »
I agree chuck GND is a bit OFF, but that is SOP for him LOL, on any given day I feel like I need SCUBA my life is just SNAFU. Thank God for the LBP.

 

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