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Offline Sly Bob

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2011, 07:40:22 AM »
The removal of the screws at the rear of the front wheelhouse liner and their replacement with push pins is recommended in the TSB for the cracking issue. That is definitely something I would do.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2011, 07:52:46 AM »
06-not cracked (yet)
09-not cracked (yet)

As far as the fender liners folks are talking about I'll have to take a look and see if the 06 has them as a separate add-on and if the 09 were molded in as part of a change, and will report back.

I can't commit to buying any until I run it by my real boss and tell her what they will costs (because she will ask).  BTW, are these something you're going to be prepared to mail if enough interest is generated?

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2011, 07:55:33 AM »
A dead blow rubber mallat and a padded chair is all I need to do wonders to fix the dents on the fender.  I have straighted many this way so that they are barely noticable.

We might have to work something out at the mod meet next year. My drivers side is so bad the paint is coming off it. The metal is crunched, but a rubber mallet would definitely take out the noticeable dent and the passenger side dent. It probably won't help on the bottom part that looks like a wad of tinfoil. :(

I didn't get a chance to check for cracks last night, but I will for sure today. One would think I would have noticed them the other day though.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2011, 08:07:29 AM »
ihawk, I'll look at it this weekend to see what we'll have to do later.

Choptop, it may be better for you to go to the seller since he's about 1hr south west of you.

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2011, 08:46:52 AM »
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Mine are both cracked.

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2011, 08:50:13 AM »
I notice some where that someone took the screws off the wheel liner and replace them with push fasteners, the ones that holds the trunk liner in place....... I have 2 extra sets for the front an 1 extra for the rear that I was able to buy at $20 each. Will be replacing the front with new liners and was thinking of using the push fasteners idea....
The push fasteners are from the TSB that GM put out to try to avoid the cracking from overtightened/inflexible screws.  You can get the same things from any auto parts store and I did when the dealer replaced my wells but didn't read the TSB and reused the screws.  Idiots already managed to crack one of the holes on the passenger side when the put on the new ones <sigh>.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2011, 08:57:34 AM »
I would want a set for front for Sky Redline because I have one crashed and my dealer wants 150$ for each (discounted price from 200$) but I have no idea how to ship them at a decent price over here.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2011, 10:01:37 AM »
The push fasteners are from the TSB that GM put out to try to avoid the cracking from overtightened/inflexible screws.  You can get the same things from any auto parts store and I did when the dealer replaced my wells but didn't read the TSB and reused the screws.  Idiots already managed to crack one of the holes on the passenger side when the put on the new ones <sigh>.

The dealer had to replace the LH liner on my wife's redline when the engine was replaced. I need to take a look and see if they reused the screws or if they read the TSB. I will also check her front right liner also.

Both my fronts are cracked (around the mounting holes) on my GXP but I need to see if this is covered under the extended warranty. I guess they should be since they know there is a problem and issued the TSB.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2011, 10:47:28 AM »
Mine aren't cracked but pretty scratched up.

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2011, 01:19:25 PM »
I wonder if the use of a rubber washer could eliminate the cracking under/around the bolt head.

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2011, 01:28:40 PM »
I wanted to install shoulder bolts/screws so that you can't over tighten them and stress the liners.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2011, 03:12:47 PM »
Even a small piece of tubing that could be used as a spacer around the screw before it's installed would work. Good idea.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2011, 03:44:27 PM »
I wonder if the use of a rubber washer could eliminate the cracking under/around the bolt head.
I think that doing this might not let you tighten the screws enough to stop them backing out.  I would go with the push pins, or maybe the screw+spacer idea above.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2011, 04:00:51 PM »
You mean the rubber along the top of the front fenders?  :idk:
Wouldn't they be too thin?
They do not look to be that thin, I would say they are about a 3/8 of an inch wide.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2011, 09:11:41 PM »
I might be in for a set.

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only need the front passenger side but will take both right and left front liners if the price is right.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2011, 09:20:39 AM »
I think mine are okay. But I'll have someone else take a look at them just to be sure at the next event.

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2011, 01:22:10 PM »
I think mine are okay. But I'll have someone else take a look at them just to be sure at the next event.

Open the hood, look down... are they cracked?

Then check behind/in front of each tire and see if they're cracked where the screws are. If not, they're not cracked.

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2011, 01:34:04 PM »
Shiny

Let me get this straight.  If they don't have any cracks then they aren't cracked?  Good to know!
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2011, 01:38:34 PM »
Shiny

Let me get this straight.  If they don't have any cracks then they aren't cracked?  Good to know!

That is correct. Would you like me to post pictures documenting this process just in case you're still not sure? :poke:

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2011, 01:42:09 PM »
No need, cracks are one of those things I look for when inspecting airplanes.  I just wanted to make sure since it sounded like a complex procedure to determin if they were in fact cracked.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2011, 02:28:49 PM »
No need, cracks are one of those things I look for when inspecting airplanes.  I just wanted to make sure since it sounded like a complex procedure to determin if they were in fact cracked.

Speaking of inspecting for cracks...and realizing this is a little hijacking (something I would never do of course)...

I had a fracture mechanics prof in college that was supposingly a guru on the subject.  He used to go out and inspect cracks on planes and was present for some testing on the 777 before it was introduced.  He was telling us it's not a crack unless it's a pretty good size crack...like several inches.  Probably depends on the size of the plane.  Do you agree or was he full of it?

So...what if a crack on our fenders is very small?  Is it still considered a crack?  :idk:

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2011, 03:40:24 PM »
Believe it or not some cracks are acceptable depending on where they are and how big they are.  It all comes down to what the manufacturer defines as airworthy, and they speck out what is OK and what scraps a part.

I worked with one tech that told the story of having to repeatedly inspect a cracked wing spar on an aircraft every so many hours of flight only to find out when some other tech did the inspection that what was called a crack was in fact only a grease mark on the spar.  He literally cleaned the mark off the part and then asked why it took years worth of inspections to determine that it wasn't a crack but grease.
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2011, 03:43:25 PM »
Would that be a greased crack?
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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2011, 04:26:17 PM »
Believe it or not some cracks are acceptable depending on where they are and how big they are.  It all comes down to what the manufacturer defines as airworthy, and they speck out what is OK and what scraps a part.

I worked with one tech that told the story of having to repeatedly inspect a cracked wing spar on an aircraft every so many hours of flight only to find out when some other tech did the inspection that what was called a crack was in fact only a grease mark on the spar.  He literally cleaned the mark off the part and then asked why it took years worth of inspections to determine that it wasn't a crack but grease.

Cool!  I didn't figure he was full of it and he said basically what you just did.  Except for the grease crack!  He was also a product liability guru and was an expert witness in several court cases.  His experiences made for some interesting discussions in Fracture Mechanics and Mech. Systems Design class.

Unfortunately...he owned an early red Miata.  :lol:

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Re: Wheel liner info - are yours cracked?
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2011, 05:05:33 PM »
Joe is trying to gauge interest on a possible group buy for wheelhouse liners so please try to keep things on topic if you would.   :slap:

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