Topic: Highest Stock K04 Kappa record

[cbr6]

  The off idle  massive torque is just a little annoying in traffic. That's why I wish it had a taller first gear. A turbo swap that took a little from the bottom and gave more at the top end would be great. But I don't want lag. Driving my GXP is like driving my old 450hp 420tq small block S10, just seamless power. But you can tell the stock turbo starts to give up at the upper end. Any opinions on a not to expensive turbo change that's straight forward and would net 300hp at the tires?

[wspohn]

  The off idle  massive torque is just a little annoying in traffic. That's why I wish it had a taller first gear. A turbo swap that took a little from the bottom and gave more at the top end would be great. But I don't want lag. Driving my GXP is like driving my old 450hp 420tq small block S10, just seamless power. But you can tell the stock turbo starts to give up at the upper end. Any opinions on a not to expensive turbo change that's straight forward and would net 300hp at the tires?

Big wheel stock turbo and a tune gets you that and then some.

[LatinVenom]

For the money the best bang vs money spend is the DDM GT2871 at less than $1300.00

http://www.ddmworks.com/DDMWorks-GT2871-Turbo-Upgrade_p_72.html

[Kelu]

I have a question on the horsepower topic. I have a '08 GXP GMPP tune, magnaflow cat back exhaust. Runs great, fuel mileage is great. My question is what does it take to put down 300hp at the tires? But still keep it as nice as the GM tune, don't think it would hurt if it was a little softer just off idle. I have wished the car had a taller first gear, it makes so much torque off idle.

Just save your money and find a "happy" dyno from 290 hp declared by GM to 300whp on a dyno is a looong way.
I always hated 1st and 2nd gear hard accelerations from low rpm because the tq peak with stock turbo (I was doing around 450tq), because my previous cars were 2L turbo, huge turbo peak and dies after 5500rpm. I wanted to replicate a NA V8, went with a medium turbo (after 2-3 other turbos) and the tq is lower and constant, you can call it laggy compared with stock turbo, but I hated when pushing it and it went either TC cut off or sliding.

This thread is really a tad silly, don't you guys think?

It is like saying 'Who has seen the highest temperature at your place in the summer?" but then throwing in a kicker and saying that none of the thermometers are calibrated and may read all over the place.  That's the situation with dynos.  The 'winner' of a thread like this is going to be the guy that used the most liberally reading dyno. What can you learn from that?

I agree.
I learned dynos are just tuning tools and definetly not an absolute value indicator of the performance.

[ryansalazan]

Well the traction control takes care of torque off idle if you leave it on, as it won't allow uncontrolled wheelspin.  You might want to look at a canned tune from Trifecta or some of the other tuners (or roll your own with one of the program packages if you have the skill and it doesn't make you nervous).  The basic Trifecta is probably the best value plug and play though.  But it isn't likely to give you 300 whp with a stock turbo and no other tweaks like alcohol fuel in a Kappa.

This thread is really a tad silly, don't you guys think?

It is like saying 'Who has seen the highest temperature at your place in the summer?" but then throwing in a kicker and saying that none of the thermometers are calibrated and may read all over the place.  That's the situation with dynos.  The 'winner' of a thread like this is going to be the guy that used the most liberally reading dyno. What can you learn from that?

I didnt start a thread like this to mean it in that way at all. I just wanted to purely know what were some of the highest dyno numbers people were putting. That being said I actually did dyno my car last night and was able to put down 325RWHP and 387RWTQ on a mustang dyno. I have never dynoed or tuned on a dyno with this car ever. And honestly I might even get my ass whooped by a less hp sky or solstice at the track because I have never ran my car there before.

Basically I'm not trying to say the highest dyno wins, but was just merely curious with what were some of the highest numbers people were putting down on stock turbo. lol

[boboborino]

Well not that I really care either but ZZP has this listed:

383 WHP on stock turbo LNF
most likely on a FWD Cobalt?
obviously with other after market add ons too!

http://shop.zzperformance.com/

I'm not really a gear head so maybe I am missing something?

325 is pretty good!

Bert

[Gentleman Jack]

I didnt start a thread like this to mean it in that way at all. I just wanted to purely know what were some of the highest dyno numbers people were putting. That being said I actually did dyno my car last night and was able to put down 325RWHP and 387RWTQ on a mustang dyno. I have never dynoed or tuned on a dyno with this car ever. And honestly I might even get my ass whooped by a less hp sky or solstice at the track because I have never ran my car there before.

Basically I'm not trying to say the highest dyno wins, but was just merely curious with what were some of the highest numbers people were putting down on stock turbo. lol

What was your starting numbers?

[Sol Asylum]

What was your starting numbers?

I'm guessing it was zero.

[ryansalazan]

Well not that I really care either but ZZP has this listed:

383 WHP on stock turbo LNF
most likely on a FWD Cobalt?
obviously with other after market add ons too!

http://shop.zzperformance.com/

I'm not really a gear head so maybe I am missing something?

325 is pretty good!

Bert

Oh ya thats def on a FWD application. lol.

[ryansalazan]

What was your starting numbers?

What do you mean by start numbers? lol I did a 4th gear pull. Is that the 1:1 ratio on this car? I know it was on the cobalt.

[Gentleman Jack]

Number before tune and number after tune.

[Kelu]

What do you mean by start numbers? lol I did a 4th gear pull. Is that the 1:1 ratio on this car? I know it was on the cobalt.

Fyi how much a stock Kappa shows on that dyno?
Yes, 4th gear is 1:1 ratio in our cars.

PS: I have a 360 dyno with stock turbo

[Sol Asylum]

Fyi how much a stock Kappa shows on that dyno?
Yes, 4th gear is 1:1 ratio in our cars.

PS: I have a 360 dyno with stock turbo

You wouldn't try to cheat us now would you?

[ryansalazan]

Fyi how much a stock Kappa shows on that dyno?
Yes, 4th gear is 1:1 ratio in our cars.

PS: I have a 360 dyno with stock turbo

Oh. I never dynoed stock. This was the first time I have dynoed this car lol.

Kelu, you wouldnt be lying now would you? lol what have you done to your car?

[Kelu]

I'm not lier, I really do have a 360hp dyno with stock turbo but ... the dyno was showing estimated at the crank and i was spraying

I might be a cheater.

[Sol Asylum]

I might be a cheater.

Plausible deniability, we've taught you well.

[ryansalazan]

I'm not lier, I really do have a 360hp dyno with stock turbo but ... the dyno was showing estimated at the crank and i was spraying

I might be a cheater.

lol I was about to say dang, what am I doing wrong? lol

[rlhammon]

Just curious, I'm wondering what is the current record for the highest WHP on a dyno with the stock turbo. No Nitrous of course because thats cheating haha. Anyways, I'd like to know because I'm going to dyno on the stock turbo I believe Saturday and would like to compare. I like to think my sky pulls hard. It def feels like it pulls harder than my fully bolter 847 cobalt ss turbo did.

Anyways please let me know!

I'm certainly not claiming any record... but here is a link to my post (in this section of the forum no less), showing my Mustang Dyno from ZZP with 310hp/380tq on an E47 tune from Trifecta.

http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,8771.0.html

[bun1t]

I dyno'd 307whp and 380wtq.

FWIW, I ran a 12.6 @110mph with those mods.

[Sly Bob]

I dyno'd 307whp and 380wtq.

FWIW, I ran a 12.6 @110mph with those mods.

Which mods?

[bun1t]

Which mods?

E47 Tune
Solo downpipe
Straight pipe exhaust
K&N Drop in
FMIC

[ryansalazan]

E47 Tune
Solo downpipe
Straight pipe exhaust
K&N Drop in
FMIC

You dont have your sky anymore do you?

[bun1t]

You dont have your sky anymore do you?

I still have it.

[cdnite]

This was with a experimental emmisions tune... power came on real slow and I gave up a lot of torque, but the HP was high.

--Christian

[ryansalazan]

I still have it.

Oh ok. lol I havent seen you out in a long time man