Topic: Ignition Fault Recall: all models of Solstice/Sky Included

[tazz]

crazy question that cameup with a buddy of mine. 
Is there a difference in the NEW uncut key vs an OLD UNCUT orginal style keys with Pontiac arrow logo?  If not a person could just go on Ebay purchase the old style uncut keys and have the Dealer program those keys instead of the Generic New keys without logo.

[POS VETT]

That's one way to do it.

[ihawk95]

crazy question that cameup with a buddy of mine. 
Is there a difference in the NEW uncut key vs an OLD UNCUT orginal style keys with Pontiac arrow logo?  If not a person could just go on Ebay purchase the old style uncut keys and have the Dealer program those keys instead of the Generic New keys without logo.

Yes.  The new key only uses a small hole to help prevent an external force from switching the key out of the Run position.  The old key is slotted.  This is why the dealers are supposed to take the old keys from you when the recall is performed.  You are not supposed to use a slotted key anymore and I'm sure it's a liability issue for GM.

[Sol Asylum]

Also it's my understanding that the new key is thinner than the old.  Which means the old won't fit in the new tumbler.

[DaveOC]

Also it's my understanding that the new key is thinner than the old.  Which means the old won't fit in the new tumbler.

I'm pretty sure this is just a rumor,  as my old keys will still slide into the new cylinder/tumbler.

[Sol Asylum]

That's good to know.

[Ironhide]

So now they recalled my car, but they still don't have any spare parts here in Germany.

I'm still wondering about the recall, because I've never had any problems with the ignition.

Additionally I have a bunch of keys hanging down from my key while I'm driving.

[Kelu]

Really? I'm interesting if Opel dealership will recall mine actually I was thinking to make a visit to an Opel dealership asking about this but I consider it just a waste of time.

[1KULSOL]

Yes.  The new key only uses a small hole to help prevent an external force from switching the key out of the Run position.  The old key is slotted.  This is why the dealers are supposed to take the old keys from you when the recall is performed.  You are not supposed to use a slotted key anymore and I'm sure it's a liability issue for GM.

one other thing ... once you get the new ignition and keys ... don't try to start your car with the old keys ... you can't use them ... and then when you go to start your car with the new keys you find that you will have to do a security relearn ... don't ask me how I know 

[Critterman]

How do you know?  Never did see your new wheels.

[1KULSOL]

here you go .... http://www.voxxwheel.com/eng/wheels/gfx-wheels-by-voxx/g20-2/

[EarthNTX]

The dealer kept my old keys. 

[Sting Ya]

Finally got the call yesterday will be taking it in 2 weeks dealer said it would take between an hour and an hour and a half asked if I wanted a loaner car and I told them no thanks I'll wait I have read too many stories of dealer techs taking cars out for a "test drive" and end up trashing the cars

[WWI Flying Ace]

Got mine done yesterday.  The dealer was close enough to home that I could have the courtesy driver take me home and then pick me up later in the day.  The new keys are tight and it will be a little while until they are worn in I guess.  Like any other time you get a new key made for a car. 

I did take the tech who was identified as the "guy who knows Skys really well" (ex Saturn tech) for a short drive to pick his brain about my turbo problem.  I'll update the other thread with that.

First time I've been in a dealer for a couple years.  They were pretty businesslike about the recall and that was that. 

[Critterman]

here you go .... http://www.voxxwheel.com/eng/wheels/gfx-wheels-by-voxx/g20-2/

Very nice indeed.

[POS VETT]

Now my Cadillac CTS-V is part of the ignition switch recall.

[Sol Asylum]

I got a recall notice on Saturday for my G6 about some electrical connector issue and the "service brake."  It's another FYI there's a recall but we don't have any parts to fix it have a nice day kind of thing.

Anyone else with a G6, I know there are a few here, get something like that?

[The Carrier]

one other thing ... once you get the new ignition and keys ... don't try to start your car with the old keys ... you can't use them ... and then when you go to start your car with the new keys you find that you will have to do a security relearn ... don't ask me how I know 

Interesting.  The dealer told me that the old keys would still work.  I guess I'll find out for myself on the 29th.

[Sting Ya]

From everything I have read including posts by people who have had the recall done the old keys will still work the difference is the new keys have a round opening for the keychain and do not have the Pontiac Arrowhead emblem embossed on them I'm planning to keep my old set but not use them as I can see a liability issue down the road if something happens .

[1KULSOL]

I tried to use my old key ... it would not start the car ... then when I inserted the new key to start the car I got the little icon that meant I needed to do a security relearn ... maybe I'm the only one this happened to ... just wanted to pass along what happened to me.

[cdflint]

I received my call today that they have my part ready.

[Ironhide]

Really? I'm interesting if Opel dealership will recall mine actually I was thinking to make a visit to an Opel dealership asking about this but I consider it just a waste of time.

Got a long letter with warnings and some advice.

By the way my dealer still did't get the spare parts.

[bluemangxp]

Got my new ignition switch installed today. They kept one old key, I tried the spare old key in the ignition. The first time I inserted it the security logo came on and it wouldn't start. Tried the new key and it fired right up. Tried the old key again and it worked! Strange. Just a side note. The new keys dont have the Pontiac Arrowhead in the key base. Glad I got to keep at least one.

[Sol Asylum]

Got my new ignition switch installed today. They kept one old key, I tried the spare old key in the ignition. The first time I inserted it the security logo came on and it wouldn't start. Tried the new key and it fired right up. Tried the old key again and it worked! Strange. Just a side note. The new keys dont have the Pontiac Arrowhead in the key base. Glad I got to keep at least one.

So what happened here is that they reprogrammed the car to recognize the new keys and deleted the old keys.  That's why it wouldn't start with the old key.  If you read the owners manual it tells you how to program the car to accept a new key.  Basically you start the car with a programed key turn it off and then use the new key within a time limit.  The security light comes on and goes off during this and new key is then programed to the car.  Sounds like if you reverse the order of things it still works.

[tazz]

Did they give you two new keys since you only gave them one old key?