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Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« on: December 25, 2009, 02:21:15 PM »
Not long ago, I bought a mirror on ebay from an HHR with map/dome lights, OnStar, auto dimming, compass, and - I thought - outside temp display.  It turns out that even though the characters "°F" and "°C" are there in the VFD, they don't even light when you power it up.



Still, because I had bought the mirror and went to the trouble of integrating an RJ-11 jack for my radar detector, I decided to try and get the temp to display in the DIC as well.  That was an entirely different rabbit hole...



Once I gave up on getting the temp display in the DIC, I went ahead and got another mirror from e-bay.  This time, it was from an '05-ish VUE, with OnStar, auto dim, compass AND temp... but no map lights.  That meant if I wanted map lights, I would have to work them in myself (in addition to the RJ-11 jack.  again).  When all was said and done, I took the map lights from the HHR mirror and made room for them in the VUE mirror.  That was easier than taking the map lights out of the stock Solstice OnStar mirror.  The cool thing was that the map light board on the HHR mirror has a 3-pin female molex plug to mate with the main circuit board.  The main circuit board in the VUE mirror, as it turns out, had a matching 3-pin male plug that is apparently used for an OnStar microphone if the mic is integrated into the mirror (which it isn't in the VUE).  That meant that two pins on the main mirror connector (16-pin that you plug into the back of the mirror) already lead to that microphone connector in the VUE mirror.  I only had to make a jumper for the third pin and I was able to plug the map lights into that.  Maybe the following pictures will explain better than my words:

map light board from HHR mirror (they're already LED's)


HHR mirror main board (the 3 tube thing, I think is for the compass - better than the clunky dongle that hangs off the VUE mirror :( )


VUE mirror circuit board (microphone plug socket circled in black)


jumper


Once the wiring provisions were done, a little dremel surgery was necessary to make room for the map lights.  I was just a little bit off with one of my holes, but unless you're looking at the bottom of the mirror, you'd never know it.



Speaking of wiring, there were several other pins that needed to be populated in that 16-pin connector.  Here's how mine breaks out now:

1 - Courtesy lamp low control (dome light signal from BCM)
2 - ground for map lights (jumpered to pin 8)
3 - empty
4 - empty
5 - empty
6 - outside temp probe signal
7 - outside temp probe return
8 - Ground
9 - +12V reverse lights signal (turns off auto dimming in reverse)
10- +12V for map lights (originally blue/white wire in pin 6 on solstice mirror)
11- OnStar Keypad signal
12- OnStar Keypad supply voltage
13- +12V ignition
14- OnStar Keypad green LED signal
15- OnStar Keypad red LED signal
16- empty

I hacked the stock mirror to bits to use for another project.  I'll post that one up when I get a chance.

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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 03:31:10 PM »
That's the coolest "mirror mod" post I've seen!  Lots of good info.  Thanks!

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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 06:25:20 PM »
so do you have the temp probe now in the new mirror?

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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 06:50:02 PM »
Yes.  I mounted the temp probe when I put the first mirror in... tried wiring it to any combination of the open pins to no avail...  tried wiring it to the correct pins on the BCM (i.e. pins 67 and 70 on connector C1 as it is in SKY's) - also to no avail. 

So yes now I finally have a mirror that does everything I want (OnStar, map lights/dome light, auto dim, compass, outside temp and jacks for my radar detector)

Here's another- albeit overexposed -pic (also gives away my next project post :) )


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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2009, 07:24:09 PM »
I'm guessing - blue mood lighting in the windshield frame?  But what are the mini-TV screens by the door handles?
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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 11:53:55 PM »
OK, question... The LEDs in the HHR mirror annoy me. I want my really bright cool white LEDs (that I had put in my stock mirror) back. Can you tell me if the HHR LEDs are soldered on? Don't suppose you have a good shot of them? Any chance of changing them out?

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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2010, 07:00:34 PM »
Matt,

Sorry it took me all day to post this:



Anything is possible... but it won't be "easy" to change 'em out.

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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2010, 07:32:44 PM »
Anything is possible... but it won't be "easy" to change 'em out.

I'm assuming it's the white square with the yellow dot? Dang, I feared SMT
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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2010, 08:16:34 AM »
Yep, that's it

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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 02:42:01 PM »
I thought you were on vac?ation Scott
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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 03:41:37 PM »
Yep, that's it


So, warm white LEDs for the interior it is then...
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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 03:55:08 PM »
Maybe find the pos and neg at each corner of the led, paint that one black and overlay it with another cool white LED...
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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 04:37:39 PM »
I thought you were on vac?ation Scott

I'm on leave.  I actually surf the forum from home ;)

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Re: Fun with Rearview Mirrors
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2010, 08:33:37 PM »
Vacation - leave same thing  getting all the honeydo's done?  :)
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 05:49:24 PM »
Should this be 'Fused'?

RV Mirror Connector--> Pin 13-12V {Yellow}, Pin 8-Ground {Black}  :idk:

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