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Author Topic: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL  (Read 5710 times)

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How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« on: July 28, 2010, 06:42:23 PM »
I performed a boost leak test on my Sky recently. Figured I would share the procedure. It's pretty easy and the parts cost less than 5 dollars for the DIY version. You can buy a test cap which shabby recommended for about $25 from here http://www.boostpro.net/prodtester.html and skip half of this.

I just did a test of the charge system right after the turbo. It's easier because you don't have to plug the lines from the turbo. Most likely you don't have a leak from your turbo. If anyone has done that method, please append this guide.

Stuff you need:

1) Tire Valve: There seem to be two common sizes, one that requires a .453" hole and one that requires a .625" hole. I bought the smaller one.
2) Drill bit for the valve. This was tough. I didn't wanna go too big, but I think most guys just use a 1/2" drillbit and it works fine. Technically .453" is about 11.5mm and a little bigger than 7/16"  I used a 7/16" bit and had to make the hole bigger. A 1/2" hole is probably fine.
3) 2" PVC threaded plug or something else stiff that will plug a 2" hose
4) Tape: air would leak out of the threads of the PVC plug so I put teflon tape, but I'm sure duct tape would work.
5) 11mm deep socket to loosen the Tbolts
6) Compressor or tank of air
7) Spray bottle of soapy water

Process is pretty easy.

Drill the hole in the cap wherever you want, pop the valve stem into the cap. Make sure it's nice and tight. If you are really slick, you can tap a pressure gauge into the cap as well.

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Loosen off the T-bolts from the hose coming off the turbo with your 11mm deep socket. Socket adaptor for electric drill optional, but makes it fast! Never use the drill to finish off tightening these. You don't wanna overdo it.

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Take the turbo side of the rubber hose off the pipe and twist the hose so the pipe isn't in the way.

Put tape around the PVC cap threads to keep air from leaking through the threads. It happened to me the first time.

Stick the cap into the hose, push it in about 1/4" then tighten the T Bolt clamp onto it. Tighten the other Tbolt clamp onto the charge pipe.

This is what it should look like in the end:

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So by being a cheapskate, you have no way to read the amount of boost you're going to put into the system. You have a few options. Fill up the air then use a tire pressure gauge to check. Have a friend sit in the car with the key on but engine off and watch the boost gauge.

I decided to go with another option, and hookup my HP Tuners with laptop and start logging and view the boost rising on the computer screen.

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Once everything is set, start pushing some air into the system. Then listen for leaks. Spray joints that are likely to leak with the soapy water and watch for bubbles. The boost pressure will drop off since the air will leak through the throttle body and whatever valves are open when the engine last stopped.

I pushed my car up just under 30psi with no leaks. I have T Bolts on the intake elbow but nothing else, and it held fine. You probably don't have to push that hard to find leaks. Most people do around 20psi.

That's it!

References:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Kqh52PC6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdjadhUP1u4
« Last Edit: July 30, 2010, 12:22:22 PM by Kenny »
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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 08:01:26 PM »
i've suspected a leak somewhere in my system for awhile now, so this guide is timely.  thanks!
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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 02:00:20 AM »
Kenny,

Great write up!  I will give this a run.

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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 02:57:57 AM »
thx for the DIY Kenny!!!  :thumbs:
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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 03:02:31 AM »
Great job, Kenny!

There are some reports about IC leaks, this is a test perfect for the IC.
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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 09:58:22 AM »
Kenny,

Great write up!  I will give this a run.

GJ

PS- why did I think your car was silver?

Cuz you don't pay attention to my threads, or because my car was so dirty at MMM7 you couldn't see the black through the dirt? Silver rollbar? Silver seats? Dunno
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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 01:26:04 PM »
Cuz you don't pay attention to my threads, or because my car was so dirty at MMM7 you couldn't see the black through the dirt? Silver rollbar? Silver seats? Dunno

You were at MMM7?  Just kidding.  I have no idea why I thought that.  Anyway, to get back on track, this is my next test.  I have a new MAF sensor in testing that to see if that might be the issue (THANKS TAZZ< ALMOST DONE!) and it's helping, but not eliminating the problem.  So the leak test is next.  I am hoping this weekend.

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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2010, 01:44:15 PM »
Excellent instructions, Kenny! :thumbs:

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Re: How to do a boost leak test on a GXP/RL
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2010, 10:58:04 PM »
I use a similar system I made for my truck. Mine is a 4" PVC reducer with a air tool fitting installed. I set my air regulator to 45 PSI and hook it up. Diesels have more boost so thats why 45 PSI. I also noticed the engine won't hold the air back as well when its cold. I also glued and clamped A rubber hoes to the PVC fitting so I can hook it to the turbo where the air cleaner hose hooks up. I let the air pressure down slow when done as the turbo will spin backwards otherwise.
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