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Author Topic: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?  (Read 4388 times)

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Offline Ag_Sky

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Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« on: April 23, 2011, 09:46:09 AM »
Am I interpreting this correctly?

I've been reading the SCCA SOLO rules and it's my understanding that long tube headers would not be compliant with:

" 14.10 D. Exhaust manifolds and headers (including downpipes) may be replaced with alternate units which are emissions-legal. ......... This allowance does not
permit relocation of the catalytic converter............"

To use long tube headers the CAT has to be relocated outside the engine compartment, thus they would not be incompliant with 14.10.D.
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 06:25:53 PM »
You are correct.  You need to take that statement as literal as it sounds.
If you Cat is not exactly where it was stock,
then it bumps you to a different class.


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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 06:26:43 PM »
Correct. Not STR legal. Any short tube headers available for the 2.4?
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2011, 06:41:00 PM »
Solo Performance makes short tube headers.

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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM »
Looks like I'll have to go with the Solo Performance Shortie http://www.solo-performance.com/exhaustk.php. They claim a 7 HP gain in performance. They also make a high flow CAT as well as a CAT back exhaust systems.

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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 07:24:41 PM »
Looks like I'll have to go with the Solo Performance Shortie http://www.solo-performance.com/exhaustk.php. They claim a 7 HP gain in performance. They also make a high flow CAT as well as a CAT back exhaust systems.

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Send a note up to SP to find out where the cat is located relative to the frame rails, etc. Then, once installed, you will need a TUNE !!!!
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 07:43:34 PM »
Here's a pic of the shortie header. Is that a stock CAT below it?




Yep, after I get the new exhaust system I was looking at a Trifecta tune for 93 octane.
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2011, 07:47:37 PM »
Dat's PURDY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2011, 09:05:11 PM »
Ag_Sky, Sweet Indeed!!!  And you will love the Trifecta Tune for 93 Octane. :drag: :brnout: :usa:
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2011, 10:08:37 PM »
Ag_Sky, sent me an e-mail at snaponbob@comcast.net. I have some links from Fast Mike Lillejord for headers that he has. And he has a VERY quick STR Sol in the NW.
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2011, 10:20:15 PM »
Bob, I sent you a email.  :poke:

Here's another thing of beauty !
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Custom Coilovers
KONI SA shocks
FE3 front, ZOK rear sway bars
Enkei Racing PF01 Bright Silver 18x8 Wheels
Hankook Ventus RS-3 Tires
K&N 69 Series Typhoon Air Intake
Clear Image Automotive Shorty Header
Solo Performance NA Single Cat Back (with muffler delete)
Trifecta Tune

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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2011, 11:21:43 PM »
This design looks to be less restrictive.

75 STR 2008 Silver (Ag) Sky 2.4L Automatic
North East Oklahoma Region SCCA
Custom Coilovers
KONI SA shocks
FE3 front, ZOK rear sway bars
Enkei Racing PF01 Bright Silver 18x8 Wheels
Hankook Ventus RS-3 Tires
K&N 69 Series Typhoon Air Intake
Clear Image Automotive Shorty Header
Solo Performance NA Single Cat Back (with muffler delete)
Trifecta Tune

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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2011, 07:44:36 AM »
Unless you WANT to keep the car very quiet, that exhaust system is excessive. The C/Stock and STR Kappas at Nationals were running no more than cats and a 2.5" straight exhaust. A high flow cat WILL raise the dB level, and SP has some very nice resonators. I have NO cat, a 3" single exhaust, and 14" resonator, with resukts being a streetable exhaust that is WELL under SCCA noise limits.
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 09:38:46 PM »
Erotica for men !  ;)
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 01:06:06 AM »
Erotica for men !  ;)
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Sorry, I would rather stare at scantly clad women then some bent tubes. :poke:
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Re: Are Long Tube Headers legal in STR ?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2011, 08:27:34 AM »
Headers never required alimony.  :worms: :worms: :worms:
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FE3 front and Z0K rear bars, owner installed pwr lock buttons
catless downpipe, SP custom exhaustWester's tune
racing springs and adjustable perches
DDM ProBeam & Tower brace, CCW 18x11 wheels for racing

 

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