Topic: Stiffening your Kappa from WDYDTYKT thread

[kennysabarese]

I ordered my front ZOK sway bar from DDMWorks....looking forward to putting it in at the end of the week to compliment the rear ZOK sway that was just put in at the mod meet. 

What made you decide to put in the front one?

[SHiNY]

What made you decide to put in the front one?

Kenny - since when does Spiky need a reason to install mods?

[spicy3480]

What made you decide to put in the front one?

I want more control of the front of the car.  LV's brace will be going on as well. I liked the feel of your car a bit better and I know you have both.

[kennysabarese]

I want more control of the front of the car.  LV's brace will be going on as well. I liked the feel of your car a bit better and I know you have both.

Yay, I have one convert!

[spicy3480]

HA yes, you definitely do!  Your car was super tight...I know those tires you have on their were part of it too, but you could feel a difference in the tightness of the front of the car.

[Uranium-238]

I'd like to get a front ZOK bar installed, however if I did I'd need to find something stiffer than the rear ZOK bar get the car back to nuetral. I agree the front needs less sway, yet to me the better balance created by not installing the front ZOK bar is going to be more beneficial to my driving style.

[kennysabarese]

I'd like to get a front ZOK bar installed, however if I did I'd need to find something stiffer than the rear ZOK bar get the car back to nuetral. I agree the front needs less sway, yet to me the better balance created by not installing the front ZOK bar is going to be more beneficial to my driving style.

Can't you use your adjustable shocks to overcome the difference? It would be better to use springs, but that's not really an option with Konis.

[Uranium-238]

Can't you use your adjustable shocks to overcome the difference? It would be better to use springs, but that's not really an option with Konis.

That's a question for SnaponBob. I've always used the difference between front and rear sway bars to fine tune the understeer/oversteer balance in long, sweeping corners. Even on other RWD cars in Forza I almost always end up with the rear bars stiffer than the front, just makes it easier to keep your line through the corner somehow.

[Rogue]

Can't you use your adjustable shocks to overcome the difference? It would be better to use springs, but that's not really an option with Konis.

Adjusting the springs/shocks will affect the transient response, while the sway bars affect the sweeping/long turn response. Which you select to tune is dictated by the response change you're looking for.

[kennysabarese]

That's a question for SnaponBob. I've always used the difference between front and rear sway bars to fine tune the understeer/oversteer balance in long, sweeping corners. Even on other RWD cars in Forza I almost always end up with the rear bars stiffer than the front, just makes it easier to keep your line through the corner somehow.

I've been taught that "fine tuning" goes in order from swaybars being the least granular, to springs, then shocks, than tire pressure to truly fine tune the car.

I don't consider Forza to be perfect, but you can try it on your car as long as you know how to put it back.

[Uranium-238]

I've been taught that "fine tuning" goes in order from swaybars being the least granular, to springs, then shocks, than tire pressure to truly fine tune the car.

I don't consider Forza to be perfect, but you can try it on your car as long as you know how to put it back.

Can we get a mod to split this into a separate thread so we don't keep getting these posts lost in here?

I've always been told that you use shocks and springs to control weight transfer. In a sweeping corner the weight has already been transferred. I'm guessing I'm not getting how spring/shock adjustments could yield the same effect as changing a sway bar.