Author Topic: Roll Bar Questions. (Read 6759 times)

Dream20b · « **on:** July 06, 2013, 04:54:06 PM »

I was referred by a friend to your shop.

I have an 07 Solstice GXP convertible that is very close to 12s, NHRA track rules say I need a roll bar if I get to 13.499 or faster in a convertible, and I already ran 13.3 on street tires with Trifecta's budget tune, and have added a Solo 3" race exhaust since.

My questions are, can a Roll bar be installed properly in a day, and if so, could you PM me roughly how much will it cost?

Oh yeah, is there anything I need to remove from the car before coming if I choose to do this?

Gentleman Jack · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2013, 01:04:08 AM »

A day?

I'll chip in $10 if this can get done in one day.

A week? Maybe.

Sol Asylum · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2013, 01:45:38 AM »

Pst GJ he's a dreamer, says so right in his name.

Sly Bob · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2013, 08:31:19 AM »

A roll bar install is pretty involved and includes a lot of work that I can't see being able to complete in a day. Hopefully Dave at Werks will chime in on this.

normsf · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2013, 11:00:56 AM »

Hello, it will take longer than a day. There are some things that you could do in advance though. Take out the interior, insulation will help speed up the process and cost too.

Then you will have to get our lightweight functional body panels.

Thanks Norm

werks · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2013, 12:05:28 PM »

Hello,

We can certainly build you a 4 point roll bar or even a 6 point roll bar for your Kappa. Depending on options and finishes it can take a week to 2 weeks to build. Shoot me a PM and I can break down the pricing and options for you, thanks!

Dream20b · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2013, 12:21:23 PM »

Really don't have the ability to do 1-2 weeks without a car, thank you though.

Gentleman Jack · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2013, 01:02:28 PM »

Don't worry, Werks will loan you a S/C V8 kappa to use while yours is in the shop

elff · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2013, 02:39:39 PM »

A Roll bar is not something you half-ass.
If you want one that will be able to save your life when the time comes, you need to let the shop take their time and do it correctly.

Otherwise you are installing a bunch of metal clubs/spikes that can make a roll even worse.

Sol Asylum · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2013, 03:36:18 PM »

Listen to Elff, he's actually used roll bars for their intended purpose and posted video to prove it.

Oh and never do something half-assed....do it full-assed or don't do it at all.

Omiotek · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2013, 04:29:54 PM »

Quote from: Sol Asylum on July 08, 2013, 03:36:18 PM

Listen to Elff, he's actually used roll bars for their intended purpose and posted video to prove it.

Oh and never do something half-assed....do it full-assed or don't do it at all.

this is 100% correct... my 25.5 cage took months.....but I bet a million dollars if it was going to save my life it would

Dream20b · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2013, 05:15:52 PM »

I didn't say I was going elsewhere, because I'm not, but this mod isn't in the near future since it can't be done in a day.

Omiotek · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2013, 05:54:36 PM »

Quote from: Dream20b on July 08, 2013, 05:15:52 PM

I didn't say I was going elsewhere, because I'm not, but this mod isn't in the near future since it can't be done in a day.

oh I wasent saying you were going elseware just saying that this isn't something that happens in a day and its definitely not something you rush. it takes a ton of time and trimming and fitting and cutting. it would be well worth your wait.

Sly Bob · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2013, 06:00:30 PM »

I have to ask, is a roll "bar" or a roll "cage" required?

miller11386 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2013, 06:05:33 PM »

Quote from: Dream20b on July 08, 2013, 05:15:52 PM

I didn't say I was going elsewhere, because I'm not, but this mod isn't in the near future since it can't be done in a day.

So let me get this straight... you want to cage a car you use as a daily driver? You will definitely regret that decision after a week of getting in and out of it.

Dream20b · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2013, 07:34:20 PM »

Quote from: Sly Bob on July 08, 2013, 06:00:30 PM

I have to ask, is a roll "bar" or a roll "cage" required?

A bar is required at 13.499 and a roll cage is required at 11.499. Only in convertibles though. The hardtop requirements are lower.

Omiotek · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2013, 09:16:33 AM »

Quote from: miller11386 on July 08, 2013, 06:05:33 PM

So let me get this straight... you want to cage a car you use as a daily driver? You will definitely regret that decision after a week of getting in and out of it.

roll bars don't have door bars like a 6 point or 8 point does

elff · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2013, 10:18:04 AM »

Cages don't necessarily have permanent door bars.

Gentleman Jack · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2013, 12:59:27 PM »

Banana's don't always have spiders either.

Omiotek · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2013, 01:01:36 PM »

Quote from: elff on July 09, 2013, 10:18:04 AM

Cages don't necessarily have permanent door bars.

a good cage does.... swingouts imho don't belong on a car and nor do cages belong in street cars imho but im a victim of the cage in a street car thing so I cant talk but I know the risks I take.

ihawk95 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2013, 01:12:44 PM »

Dream20b...why don't you contact Werks as Dave has suggested and see what he says as far as install time? You're up in Lake Zurich and they are in Plainfield. You aren't very far and the install time might be tolerable for you. Worst case, since they are close, you could rent a car for a few days while they need yours for the install.

elff · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09, 2013, 01:37:45 PM »

Quote from: Omiotek on July 09, 2013, 01:01:36 PM

a good cage does.... swingouts imho don't belong on a car and nor do cages belong in street cars imho but im a victim of the cage in a street car thing so I cant talk but I know the risks I take.

There are options that bolt the side pieces in place which are just as strong as a weld.
They use a total of 6 bolts for the attachment points.

Dream20b · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2013, 01:39:43 PM »

I'll be straying form the roll bar for now, thanks for the input everyone.

Kelu · « **Reply #23 on:** July 09, 2013, 01:46:05 PM »

For fast drag racing, go to a different strip or go to the days when the track is rented

ihawk95 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 09, 2013, 02:08:01 PM »

Quote from: Kelu on July 09, 2013, 01:46:05 PM

For fast drag racing, go to a different strip or go to the days when the track is rented

Yup...run over to Byron. You can make one pass under 13.499!

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