Author Topic: Trifecta Tune (Read 46486 times)

wspohn · « **Reply #50 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:16:40 AM »

Vince didn't originally have the no lift shift feature in his tunes, but did start including them on request. The base tune can be anything you happen to have and that you default to when his tune is switched off - it doesn't matter to him, although IIRC he would need to know which sensors you had.

Not sure why you ever turn your Trifecta tune off. By all accounts you slightly improve fuel mileage when using it and there is no benefit in terms of fuel or durability in not simply using the Trifecta tune all the time.

Brazen17 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 17, 2012, 12:18:47 PM »

Quote from: rlhammon on March 16, 2012, 08:17:02 PM

Not trying to call you out Bob, but I'm not here often.. and I'm going through somewhat old threads, sorry.

For the record, I have a Trifecta tune, and my base tune in the GMPP tune. I drive daily on the GMPP tune, and use the Trifecta for autocross. When autocrossing I have access to the No Lift Shift, which is only there due to the GMPP tune. So... not everything gets removed.

Also, I've had zero issues with my GMPP tune, and it's not like I'm easy on the poor car. I haul a fairly heavy 4'x8' trailer with the car from event to event, all while driving on the GMPP tune. 63,000+ miles on her so far...

That's good news.

Sol Asylum · « **Reply #52 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:15:12 PM »

Quote from: wspohn on March 17, 2012, 08:16:40 AM

Vince didn't originally have the no lift shift feature in his tunes, but did start including them on request. The base tune can be anything you happen to have and that you default to when his tune is switched off - it doesn't matter to him, although IIRC he would need to know which sensors you had.

Not sure why you ever turn your Trifecta tune off. By all accounts you slightly improve fuel mileage when using it and there is no benefit in terms of fuel or durability in not simply using the Trifecta tune all the time.

You turn it off when you go to the dealership for work so that they don't know you have a tune and it doesn't void your warranty.

rlhammon · « **Reply #53 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:56:32 PM »

Quote from: wspohn on March 17, 2012, 08:16:40 AM

Vince didn't originally have the no lift shift feature in his tunes, but did start including them on request. The base tune can be anything you happen to have and that you default to when his tune is switched off - it doesn't matter to him, although IIRC he would need to know which sensors you had.

Not sure why you ever turn your Trifecta tune off. By all accounts you slightly improve fuel mileage when using it and there is no benefit in terms of fuel or durability in not simply using the Trifecta tune all the time.

I turn my Trifecta tune off when I daily drive because it's activated by the Traction Control. So, to use the tune, I have to put it in at least Competitive Mode (or ESC off). In competitive mode, with street tires, I can spin the tires through 1st, and 2nd, and squeal them into 3rd. If it rains, I have a hard time keeping the rear end behind the front tires.

I'm not concerned about fuel economy... I'm running some sort of gas/E85 mix already, so I've given up fuel mileage right there. I just don't feel it's smart to have the level of power I have under the tune on the street with street tires. I can enjoy the car with the GMPP tune on the street just fine. To each their own... no judgement from me.

Valhalla · « **Reply #54 on:** April 12, 2012, 09:40:14 AM »

i just ordered the budget tune for mine. now comes the painfully long wait for the cable to get to me.

Brazen17 · « **Reply #55 on:** April 12, 2012, 10:36:55 AM »

Let us know how she runs! I can't decide on a Trifecta tune or bigger turbo.

Ames Performance Tuning · « **Reply #56 on:** May 08, 2012, 09:58:43 AM »

Why Decide? Get Both!

elff · « **Reply #57 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:03:07 AM »

If you get a bigger turbo, It's not an option, you need to be re-tuned.
Just a matter of who you use.

wspohn · « **Reply #58 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:29:55 AM »

Quote from: elff on May 08, 2012, 11:03:07 AM

If you get a bigger turbo, It's not an option, you need to be re-tuned.
Just a matter of who you use.

Absolutely. And you also give away some of the low down flexibility as a trade for more power at top end. That sort of trade always sounds like it is worthwhile, but you really have to examine how you will drive it to assess the prospect properly.

rlhammon - if you had Trifecta reset your tune to operate on something else (I think the usual is the cruise control) you could have the benefit of slightly better mileage along with having the power alwasy accessible without having to hit switches.

There is no problem with having the power always on hand - it is the driver that has to be able to deal with it. I've had cars that would burn rubber through into 3rd gear, but I never got in trouble with them inadvertently - because you are always aware of having it there.

elff · « **Reply #59 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:46:12 AM »

Depends on the turbo
According to HP Tuners, my 2871 is spooling 100rpms faster than the K04 and is pushing 45lbs/min of air up top.

I'm loving it!!

miller11386 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:59:38 AM »

Elff,
My car must have been a dog. Last I logged I was only pushing like 33lb min/ 30lb min VE

elff · « **Reply #61 on:** May 08, 2012, 01:36:21 PM »

I posted some changes I made in the What Did you do thread and have logged and re-tuned the beast numerous times.

Gentleman Jack · « **Reply #62 on:** May 08, 2012, 01:41:40 PM »

Elffs car is white. That's the main difference in airflow. Look a Kelu's car. It's black and he only can push about 23lbs / min. Silver is in between. Further evidence is Sky888, his car is red and even with two turbos he can't push any air at all. That's why I bought blue. Air is blue, so it moves like crazy. I'm on the stock turbo and pushing 38 lbs.

Simple color dynamics really.

Kelu · « **Reply #63 on:** May 08, 2012, 01:47:13 PM »

i'm pushing 45 lbs/min from 5000rpm till 7400rpm

38 lbs from stock k04 is just scrabbled maf

miller11386 · « **Reply #64 on:** May 08, 2012, 02:23:58 PM »

thats a lot of pounds per minute!

How can I achieve this?

Kelu · « **Reply #65 on:** May 08, 2012, 02:26:25 PM »

1st u need to have a car
2nd upgrade your turbo
That's it

Brazen17 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 08, 2012, 04:27:23 PM »

Well, I'm off to the store to get me some blue spray paint....Does the shade matter?

elff · « **Reply #67 on:** May 08, 2012, 06:07:34 PM »

O yes, very important
GJ will explain why

Sol Asylum · « **Reply #68 on:** May 08, 2012, 08:35:25 PM »

Quote from: Brazen17 on May 08, 2012, 04:27:23 PM

Well, I'm off to the store to get me some blue spray paint....Does the shade matter?

I would make sure it's a shade that prevents you from having any issue with garage door frames.

Gentleman Jack · « **Reply #69 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:40:17 PM »

That frame just jumped out and bit me.

Shade of blue has a dramatic effect. Make sure you match the wind in your home location for best results

Kelu, my MAF is definitely not scrabbled. It's a result of the paint color.

elff · « **Reply #70 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:56:11 PM »

Brazen,
Don't forget the fluid to change in your headlights!

Brazen17 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 09, 2012, 11:09:44 AM »

Quote from: elff on May 08, 2012, 11:56:11 PM

Brazen,
Don't forget the fluid to change in your headlights!

Seeing as I just went of 60k I better do it soon. Do they make that in a high performance ultra clear synthetic? I've never been happy with the conventional stuff.

elff · « **Reply #72 on:** May 09, 2012, 11:10:58 AM »

Only 50/50 blends

Sol Asylum · « **Reply #73 on:** May 09, 2012, 01:14:54 PM »

Unless the dealer does it then its anybody's guess, could end up being 30/70 or 70/30.

Brazen17 · « **Reply #74 on:** May 09, 2012, 05:32:25 PM »

I guess it will have to do. Maybe GJ has some extra laying around the garage?

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Author Topic: Trifecta Tune (Read 46486 times)