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P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« on: October 22, 2012, 05:28:21 PM »
Popped the code today on the way to work.  Any ideas?

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 08:56:48 PM »
Just a guess but how's your air filter?
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P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 12:16:46 AM »
Somethings I thought of while in the shower:



If this is the first time the code set I would clear it and change fuel. Then give it a good hard run. The code chart is as followed.

DTC P2178 or P2188
Diagnostic Instructions
• Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

• Review Strategy Based Diagnosis for an overview of the diagnostic approach.

• Diagnostic Procedure Instructions provides an overview of each diagnostic category.

DTC Descriptors
DTC P2178: Fuel Trim System Rich at Cruise or Accel

DTC P2188: Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle


Circuit/System Description
The engine control module (ECM) controls the air/fuel metering system in order to provide the best possible combination of driveability, fuel economy, and emission control. Fuel delivery is controlled differently during Open Loop and Closed Loop. During Open Loop, the ECM determines fuel delivery based on sensor signals without heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) input. During Closed Loop, the ECM adds HO2S inputs to calculate the short and long term fuel trim (FT) adjustments. If the HO2S indicates a lean condition, the fuel trim values will be above 0 percent. If the HO2S indicates a rich condition, the FT values will be below 0 percent. The short term FT values change rapidly in response to the HO2S voltage signals. The long term FT makes coarse adjustments in order to maintain an air/fuel ratio of 14.7:1.

If the ECM detects an excessively rich condition at cruise or during acceleration, DTC P2178 sets.

If the ECM detects an excessively rich condition at idle, DTC P2188 sets.

Conditions for Running the DTC
P2178
• DTCs P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0030, P0031, P0032, P0053, P0101, P0102, P0103, P0107, P0108, P0117, P0118, P0121, P0122, P0123, P0125, P0130, P0131, P0132, P0133, P0135, P0335, P0336, P0338, P0443, P0455, P0458, P0459, P0496, P167A, P2088, P2089, P2090, P2091, P2096, P2097, P2176, P2195, P2196, P2231, P2237, P2243, P2251, P2297, P2626 are not set.

• The engine is running.

• The engine is in Closed Loop for more than 1 minute.

• The engine coolant temperature is more than 60°C (140°F).

• The intake air temperature is equal to or less than 60°C (140°F).

• The commanded lambda is between 0.83-1.2.

• The deceleration fuel cut-off (DFCO) is not active.

• The fuel level is more than 10 percent.

• The mass air flow is between 7.5-83.3 g/s.

• The engine load is between 17-45 percent.

• The engine speed is between 1,200-3400 RPM.

• The throttle angle is equal to or less than 99.6 percent.

• DTC P2178 runs continuously when the above conditions have been met for 1 second.

P2188
• DTCs P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0030, P0031, P0032, P0053, P0101, P0102, P0103, P0107, P0108, P0117, P0118, P0121, P0122, P0123, P0125, P0130, P0131, P0132, P0133, P0135, P0335, P0336, P0338, P0443, P0455, P0458, P0459, P0496, P167A, P2088, P2089, P2090, P2091, P2096, P2097, P2176, P2195, P2196, P2231, P2237, P2243, P2251, P2297, P2626 are not set.

• The engine is running.

• The engine is in Closed Loop for more than 1 minute.

• The engine coolant temperature is more than 60°C (140°F).

• The intake air temperature is equal to or less than 60°C (140°F).

• The commanded lambda is between 0.83-1.2.

• The deceleration fuel cut-off (DFCO) is not active.

• The fuel level is more than 10 percent.

• The mass air flow is equal to or between 1.4-6.7 g/s.

• The engine load is equal to or between 7.5-24.8 percent.

• DTC P2188 runs continuously when the above conditions have been met for 1 second.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
• The long term FT weighted average value is less than a calibrated value at idle, cruise or during acceleration.

• DTC P2178 or P2188 sets when the above condition is met for 4 seconds continuously, or for 50 seconds cumulatively.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets
DTCs P2178 and P2188 are Type B DTCs.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
DTCs P2178 and P2188 are Type B DTCs.

Reference Information
Electrical Information Reference

• Circuit Testing

• Connector Repairs

• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

• Wiring Repairs


DTC Type Reference
Powertrain Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Type Definitions

Emission System Information Reference

• Evaporative Emissions Hose Routing Diagram

• Crankcase Ventilation System Inspection/Diagnosis


Engine Mechanical Information Reference

• Symptoms - Engine Mechanical

• Symptoms - Engine Exhaust


Fuel System Information Reference

• Fuel System Diagnosis

• Alcohol/Contaminants-in-Fuel Diagnosis


Scan Tool Reference

• Scan Tool Data List

• Scan Tool Data Definitions


Circuit/System Verification
Important: Disregard any transmission symptoms, antilock brake system (ABS) indicators, and traction control system (TCS) indicators until any fuel trim faults are repaired. A fuel trim fault may cause default actions such as harsh shifts and illumination of the ABS/TCS indicators.

If any other DTCs are set, perform those diagnostics first.
Operate the vehicle within the parameters described in Conditions for Running and Conditions for Setting. The DTC should not set this ignition.
⇒ If the DTC sets this ignition, proceed with Circuit/System Testing.

Circuit/System Testing
Important: You must perform the Circuit/System Verification before proceeding with Circuit/System Testing.

Allow the engine to reach operating temperature. With the engine running, observe the Long Term FT parameter with a scan tool. The value should be more than approximately -20 percent with the engine running at operating temperature.

⇒ If the value is less than -20 percent, inspect for the following:

• With the engine idling and the transmission in the Park or Neutral position, observe the manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor parameter. The MAP sensor parameter should be between 19-42 kPa.

⇒ If the MAP sensor parameter is not between 19-42 kPa, refer to DTC P0106, P0107, or P0108 .

• With the engine idling, observe the mass air flow (MAF) sensor parameter. The MAF sensor parameter should be between 2-6 g/s at idle.

⇒ If the MAF sensor parameter is not between 2-6 g/s at idle, refer to DTC P0100, P0101, P0102, or P0103 .

• Vacuum hoses for splits, kinks, and improper connections

• The air intake duct for being collapsed or restricted

• The air filter for being dirty or restricted

• Objects blocking the throttle body or MAF Sensor

• Leaks in the air induction system between the turbocharger outlet and the throttle body inlet, including the charge air cooler

• Excessive fuel in the crankcase due to leaking fuel injectors

• The evaporative emissions control system for improper operation

• Excessive fuel pressure

• Malfunctioning fuel injectors

• Fuel contamination

• Missing, loose, or leaking exhaust components from the HO2S forward

• The HO2S for improper installation and for electrical wires or connectors that may have suffered corrosion, water intrusion, or contacted the exhaust system

• Incorrect terminal tension at electrical connectors

• Loose, corroded, or mislocated electrical ground connections

• A restricted exhaust system

• The HO2S signal circuit shorted to voltage

• Malfunctioning engine components

Repair Instructions
• Air Cleaner Assembly Replacement

• Air Cleaner Element Replacement

• Air Cleaner Outlet Duct Replacement

• Direct Fuel Injector Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Canister Purge Solenoid Valve Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Canister Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Canister Vent Solenoid Valve Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Hoses/Pipes Replacement - Canister/Fuel Tank

• Evaporative Emission Hoses/Pipes Replacement - Chassis/Canister

• Evaporative Emission Hoses/Pipes Replacement - Engine/Chassis

• Fuel Feed Pipe Replacement

• Fuel Hose/Pipes Replacement - Chassis

• Fuel Pump Fuel Feed Hose Replacement

• Fuel Pump Module Replacement

• Fuel System Cleaning

• Fuel Tank Draining

• Heated Oxygen Sensor 1 Replacement

• Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Replacement

• Mass Airflow Sensor Replacement

• Throttle Body Assembly Replacement

Repair Verification
Important: After repairs, use the scan tool Fuel Trim Reset function in order to reset the long term fuel trim.

Install any components or connectors that have been removed or replaced during diagnosis.
Perform any adjustment, programming, or setup procedures that are required when a component or module is removed or replaced.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Important: DO NOT clear codes with the engine running. The codes may reset in the same ignition cycle.

Clear the DTCs.
Turn OFF the ignition for 60 seconds.
Start the engine.
Duplicate the Conditions for Running the DTC and use the Freeze Frame/Failure Records, if applicable, in order to verify the DTC does not reset. If the DTC resets, or another DTC is present, refer to the Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle and perform the appropriate diagnostic procedure.
To verify that the performance of the catalytic converter has not been affected by the condition that set this DTC, perform the Repair Verification for DTC P0420. Refer to DTC P0420 .
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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2012, 01:08:50 AM »
could it be an air leak somewhere ?
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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 05:08:39 AM »
I was looking around for an air leak with the engine running and it's making a strange noise too.  I'll record it later, but I pulled the oil dipstick and the RPMs reved up, I put my finger over the dip stick and felt a suction and the RPMs came back down.  Took my finger back off and it came back up.  I didn't look at how much the RPMs jumped. 

I checked on my wifes coupe and it did the same thing but it was barely noticible.

It may be an air leak because under moderate acceleration I hear a what seems like a air leak sound but the boost holds steady.

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2012, 07:57:01 AM »
Somethings I thought of while in the shower:



If this is the first time the code set I would clear it and change fuel. Then give it a good hard run. The code chart is as followed.

DTC P2178 or P2188
Diagnostic Instructions
• Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

• Review Strategy Based Diagnosis for an overview of the diagnostic approach.

• Diagnostic Procedure Instructions provides an overview of each diagnostic category.

DTC Descriptors
DTC P2178: Fuel Trim System Rich at Cruise or Accel

DTC P2188: Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle


Circuit/System Description
The engine control module (ECM) controls the air/fuel metering system in order to provide the best possible combination of driveability, fuel economy, and emission control. Fuel delivery is controlled differently during Open Loop and Closed Loop. During Open Loop, the ECM determines fuel delivery based on sensor signals without heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) input. During Closed Loop, the ECM adds HO2S inputs to calculate the short and long term fuel trim (FT) adjustments. If the HO2S indicates a lean condition, the fuel trim values will be above 0 percent. If the HO2S indicates a rich condition, the FT values will be below 0 percent. The short term FT values change rapidly in response to the HO2S voltage signals. The long term FT makes coarse adjustments in order to maintain an air/fuel ratio of 14.7:1.

If the ECM detects an excessively rich condition at cruise or during acceleration, DTC P2178 sets.

If the ECM detects an excessively rich condition at idle, DTC P2188 sets.

Conditions for Running the DTC
P2178
• DTCs P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0030, P0031, P0032, P0053, P0101, P0102, P0103, P0107, P0108, P0117, P0118, P0121, P0122, P0123, P0125, P0130, P0131, P0132, P0133, P0135, P0335, P0336, P0338, P0443, P0455, P0458, P0459, P0496, P167A, P2088, P2089, P2090, P2091, P2096, P2097, P2176, P2195, P2196, P2231, P2237, P2243, P2251, P2297, P2626 are not set.

• The engine is running.

• The engine is in Closed Loop for more than 1 minute.

• The engine coolant temperature is more than 60°C (140°F).

• The intake air temperature is equal to or less than 60°C (140°F).

• The commanded lambda is between 0.83-1.2.

• The deceleration fuel cut-off (DFCO) is not active.

• The fuel level is more than 10 percent.

• The mass air flow is between 7.5-83.3 g/s.

• The engine load is between 17-45 percent.

• The engine speed is between 1,200-3400 RPM.

• The throttle angle is equal to or less than 99.6 percent.

• DTC P2178 runs continuously when the above conditions have been met for 1 second.

P2188
• DTCs P0010, P0011, P0013, P0014, P0030, P0031, P0032, P0053, P0101, P0102, P0103, P0107, P0108, P0117, P0118, P0121, P0122, P0123, P0125, P0130, P0131, P0132, P0133, P0135, P0335, P0336, P0338, P0443, P0455, P0458, P0459, P0496, P167A, P2088, P2089, P2090, P2091, P2096, P2097, P2176, P2195, P2196, P2231, P2237, P2243, P2251, P2297, P2626 are not set.

• The engine is running.

• The engine is in Closed Loop for more than 1 minute.

• The engine coolant temperature is more than 60°C (140°F).

• The intake air temperature is equal to or less than 60°C (140°F).

• The commanded lambda is between 0.83-1.2.

• The deceleration fuel cut-off (DFCO) is not active.

• The fuel level is more than 10 percent.

• The mass air flow is equal to or between 1.4-6.7 g/s.

• The engine load is equal to or between 7.5-24.8 percent.

• DTC P2188 runs continuously when the above conditions have been met for 1 second.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
• The long term FT weighted average value is less than a calibrated value at idle, cruise or during acceleration.

• DTC P2178 or P2188 sets when the above condition is met for 4 seconds continuously, or for 50 seconds cumulatively.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets
DTCs P2178 and P2188 are Type B DTCs.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
DTCs P2178 and P2188 are Type B DTCs.

Reference Information
Electrical Information Reference

• Circuit Testing

• Connector Repairs

• Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

• Wiring Repairs


DTC Type Reference
Powertrain Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Type Definitions

Emission System Information Reference

• Evaporative Emissions Hose Routing Diagram

• Crankcase Ventilation System Inspection/Diagnosis


Engine Mechanical Information Reference

• Symptoms - Engine Mechanical

• Symptoms - Engine Exhaust


Fuel System Information Reference

• Fuel System Diagnosis

• Alcohol/Contaminants-in-Fuel Diagnosis


Scan Tool Reference

• Scan Tool Data List

• Scan Tool Data Definitions


Circuit/System Verification
Important: Disregard any transmission symptoms, antilock brake system (ABS) indicators, and traction control system (TCS) indicators until any fuel trim faults are repaired. A fuel trim fault may cause default actions such as harsh shifts and illumination of the ABS/TCS indicators.

If any other DTCs are set, perform those diagnostics first.
Operate the vehicle within the parameters described in Conditions for Running and Conditions for Setting. The DTC should not set this ignition.
⇒ If the DTC sets this ignition, proceed with Circuit/System Testing.

Circuit/System Testing
Important: You must perform the Circuit/System Verification before proceeding with Circuit/System Testing.

Allow the engine to reach operating temperature. With the engine running, observe the Long Term FT parameter with a scan tool. The value should be more than approximately -20 percent with the engine running at operating temperature.

⇒ If the value is less than -20 percent, inspect for the following:

• With the engine idling and the transmission in the Park or Neutral position, observe the manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor parameter. The MAP sensor parameter should be between 19-42 kPa.

⇒ If the MAP sensor parameter is not between 19-42 kPa, refer to DTC P0106, P0107, or P0108 .

• With the engine idling, observe the mass air flow (MAF) sensor parameter. The MAF sensor parameter should be between 2-6 g/s at idle.

⇒ If the MAF sensor parameter is not between 2-6 g/s at idle, refer to DTC P0100, P0101, P0102, or P0103 .

• Vacuum hoses for splits, kinks, and improper connections

• The air intake duct for being collapsed or restricted

• The air filter for being dirty or restricted

• Objects blocking the throttle body or MAF Sensor

• Leaks in the air induction system between the turbocharger outlet and the throttle body inlet, including the charge air cooler

• Excessive fuel in the crankcase due to leaking fuel injectors

• The evaporative emissions control system for improper operation

• Excessive fuel pressure

• Malfunctioning fuel injectors

• Fuel contamination

• Missing, loose, or leaking exhaust components from the HO2S forward

• The HO2S for improper installation and for electrical wires or connectors that may have suffered corrosion, water intrusion, or contacted the exhaust system

• Incorrect terminal tension at electrical connectors

• Loose, corroded, or mislocated electrical ground connections

• A restricted exhaust system

• The HO2S signal circuit shorted to voltage

• Malfunctioning engine components

Repair Instructions
• Air Cleaner Assembly Replacement

• Air Cleaner Element Replacement

• Air Cleaner Outlet Duct Replacement

• Direct Fuel Injector Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Canister Purge Solenoid Valve Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Canister Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Canister Vent Solenoid Valve Replacement

• Evaporative Emission Hoses/Pipes Replacement - Canister/Fuel Tank

• Evaporative Emission Hoses/Pipes Replacement - Chassis/Canister

• Evaporative Emission Hoses/Pipes Replacement - Engine/Chassis

• Fuel Feed Pipe Replacement

• Fuel Hose/Pipes Replacement - Chassis

• Fuel Pump Fuel Feed Hose Replacement

• Fuel Pump Module Replacement

• Fuel System Cleaning

• Fuel Tank Draining

• Heated Oxygen Sensor 1 Replacement

• Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Replacement

• Mass Airflow Sensor Replacement

• Throttle Body Assembly Replacement

Repair Verification
Important: After repairs, use the scan tool Fuel Trim Reset function in order to reset the long term fuel trim.

Install any components or connectors that have been removed or replaced during diagnosis.
Perform any adjustment, programming, or setup procedures that are required when a component or module is removed or replaced.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Important: DO NOT clear codes with the engine running. The codes may reset in the same ignition cycle.

Clear the DTCs.
Turn OFF the ignition for 60 seconds.
Start the engine.
Duplicate the Conditions for Running the DTC and use the Freeze Frame/Failure Records, if applicable, in order to verify the DTC does not reset. If the DTC resets, or another DTC is present, refer to the Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle and perform the appropriate diagnostic procedure.
To verify that the performance of the catalytic converter has not been affected by the condition that set this DTC, perform the Repair Verification for DTC P0420. Refer to DTC P0420 .

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2012, 11:09:32 AM »
I'll bet it was "Golden" Jimmy.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2012, 05:37:06 PM »
SA- you're gross. :)

Jimmy-  i have a tankless hot water heater, i can stay in the shower for days!!!!!!!
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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 09:08:21 AM »
Doing what??? Nevermind I don't want to know.

Joe it sounds like you are getting too much fuel when it idles.  :D

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 03:35:33 PM »
Jimmy do you think if he had less fuel in the gas tank it would make a difference?
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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 08:05:11 PM »
Whoa!  Now let's get a little knowledge on why the EMS is ticked. When the EMS is doing it's thing it believes all the inputs, makes calculations and  decisions about the outputs.  This means that the ECM will calculate the fuel delivery in injector pulse width based on intake & coolant temps, manifold pressure, baro pressure, MAF, and some TP & APP.  The fuel delivered is then just about right, the O2 sensor reports the errors and the ECM adds or subtracts from the inj pulse in what is called fuel trim in closed loop.  Fuel trim can be viewed with a scan tool, there are two types, short term and long term.  Positive numbers are adding fuel because of a lean error that needs adjustment, negative numbers are subtracting fuel. 

So what we have here is an EMS that is calculating the wrong fueling at idle most likely because a sensor is lying and the O2 is tattling, or the EMS is trying very hard to over come a rich condition that is caused by something not related to sensor inputs e.g. fuel pressure too high, or  the O2 sensor is lying. 

Forget about the suction when pulling the dipstick, negative pressure is the desired state of the crankcase.  Instead get the scanner on and compare to the known good car or post some numbers and we can compare to others and experience.

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2012, 05:00:48 PM »
Scanner,

I have cleared the code and it has come back after a couple of weeks.  what do you recommend I do?

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2012, 07:54:01 PM »
I think he wants you to scan it Joe, but I'm not sure what he wants scanned.  Fuel trims, MAP readings, MAF readings?  or voltage readings of the MAF, MAP, and O2 sensors.
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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 10:03:34 PM »
Whats the fuel rail pressure at idle?
Should average at warm idle at about 600psi.

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 05:17:18 AM »
get the scanner on and compare to the known good car or post some numbers and we can compare to others and experience.


Joe, I'm just guessing, but I think THIS is what he recommends you do :poke:  Especially since you have a known good car parked right next to it in your driveway :)

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 06:59:17 PM »
You need a scanner.  But one really scary thought crossed my mind.  Check the oil level.  If it is over full and smells like gas there is a different problem.

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Re: P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 10:01:14 PM »
Leaking injector/s at that point?