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Compression tool suggestions
« on: October 25, 2012, 08:39:41 PM »
Looks like these are fairly inexpensive, so i am thinking it would a good tool to have in my garage.

What size do i need so the threads match?

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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 08:44:37 PM »
I am partial to dynamic compression testers since you can use them to troubleshoot what is causing low compression.  Set the cylinder to TDC add some air pressure read the gauge and listen for the hiss.  If it's coming from the exhaust or intake it's valves oil filler then it's rings bubbles in the coolent head gasket.

I think most compression testers come with adapters for the various thread sizes.
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 08:49:05 PM »
Got a link for one of those?

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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 09:26:37 PM »
Also known as a bleed down or leak down compression tester

http://www.harborfreight.com/cylinder-leak-down-tester-94190.html
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 11:34:05 PM »
Not too good of reviews for that one, but now I know what to look for.
Unfortunately, I don't have a source of compressed air.  Best I could do is use the tire compressor which probably would not be good enough.

As such, I was thinking about something like this.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00020BM28/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Since I also have a Jeep and a truck, I am thinking the extra sizes might be beneficial.


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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 12:06:50 AM »
You don't have an air compressor? :roll:

I have used a small compressor and one of those portable compressed air cylinders in the past when a real compressor was not available.  Kind of sucked but it did work.

The other checkers like you posted will work they just don't help you find what the problem is they only tell you that you have a problem.
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 08:51:11 AM »
Nope
I have an electric Impact gun and use hand tools for the rest.   

Well I hear a Whoosh of air coming out of the center of the engine when I turn it off.
I am pretty sure if I find one cylinder low on compression its a ring

Can you use the type you posted without an Air Source so that it functions like the one I posted?

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 08:53:42 AM »
I have an old 7 gallon compressor I don't use any more.  You are welcome to it.
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 10:10:26 AM »
Would that be able to be shipped?

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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 11:08:16 AM »
Can you use the type you posted without an Air Source so that it functions like the one I posted?

I have never tried it but I guess it might work. :idk:
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 12:23:59 PM »
the air compressor shipped?  Probably if you have the boxes and packing.
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 01:10:26 PM »
That's what I figured.  If I was going to pick that up, I might as well just drive a couple hrs further and drop the car off at DDM as that would only be a couple hrs more than a round trip. 

I do appreciate the offer. 

It's ok, I know it's pooched beyond my skill set to repair.


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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 01:31:26 PM »
how long is the drive?  90 Minutes right?
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 04:05:17 PM »
O No, it's actually about an hour and a half
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 04:20:20 PM »
O No, it's actually about an hour and a half
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 04:47:09 PM »
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You may want to make that you avatar for a while and send a lot of PMs.  :devil:

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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 08:06:02 PM »
Romania is such a lie.
They try to lull you into a state of calm and serenity with stories of vampires
All to lure you into the clutches of thousands of Devil Flowers!!!

it's heinous!!!


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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 08:21:20 PM »
I think you forgot about all those attractive women in Romania.

And there were worse things then kids toys that look like flowers Elff, remember that big steaming piece of crap I was servered for dinner the last night we were there?
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 08:32:23 PM »
Yea but you ordered that.  These Devil flowers sneak up on you while you are sleeping!!

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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2012, 10:39:47 PM »
Who would have though that a steaming piece of crap would be so under cooked like that thing was?
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2012, 01:15:49 PM »
I am partial to dynamic compression testers since you can use them to troubleshoot what is causing low compression.  Set the cylinder to TDC add some air pressure read the gauge and listen for the hiss.  If it's coming from the exhaust or intake it's valves oil filler then it's rings bubbles in the coolent head gasket.

I think most compression testers come with adapters for the various thread sizes.

Yeap, a leakdown tester is going to tell you where it is coming from usually and definitely recommended. A compression gauge can at least verify though that you have an issue in a particular cylinder and they are relatively cheap, you can also check with a local Advance Auto/Autozone sometimes they will loan out tools for no charge, just have to leave a deposit which you get back when the tool is returned. That way you could at least verify there is a problem with the engine.
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Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2012, 02:07:48 PM »
Thats a good idea.
Ill run over to pep boys tomorrow
I have a friend coming over tonight who is the head mechanic at a shop that specializes in BMWs and Minis. 
Ill see if he can help a little with pinpointing the location. I have a stethescope which should help.

Ill be calling On monday Dave to go over some build options.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2012, 03:27:05 PM »
  Dave, good luck this weekend figuring out what is wrong.[attachimg=1]
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Re: Compression tool suggestions
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2012, 04:10:02 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2012, 08:44:33 AM »
  Dave, good luck this weekend figuring out what is wrong.[attachimg=1]

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