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Offline Dkogout

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need help with 3bar map
« on: March 18, 2013, 07:52:24 PM »
just got the 3 bar map sensors that come with the gmpp kit and clips, any one have the wiring diagram or a pics? and does any one know if i can wire the 3 bar maps in and run the car for a few days without trowing cel? im having some one tune it with hp tuner
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Offline HAMMER DOWN

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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 09:52:46 PM »
A DIY I did in 09. FYI solder your connections. Other had cells & drive ability issues with the crimp connection.
   

http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,1344.0.html

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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 10:19:07 PM »
Hammer Down's DIY link looks great.  If you should want them though, the original install instructions are here: http://www.gmpartshouse.com/installdocs/19212670-installation-instructions.pdf

As for driving with the new sensors and old 'tune'... The issue is that the slope and range of the output voltage of the 3-bar sensors departs from that of the 2.5-bar ones.  If you use very little or no boost they are close enough together that the ECM doesn't see anything amiss. But the moment you get into boost, the reading from the new sensor is far enough off from what the 'old' tune expects that it throws codes.  Bottom line, if you drive extremely carefully and slowly (self-inflicted limp mode) you'll be fine.  Just don't try to accelerate.

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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 05:23:43 PM »
Why not get the pig tails that are sold that no longer require to solder the connections.
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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2013, 10:55:12 PM »
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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2013, 01:28:13 AM »
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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2013, 01:37:10 AM »
Quote from: Gentleman Jack on March 20, 2013, 01:28:13 AM
€€€=%<<£#•+*£€¥
is that a new financial equation? :)
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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 10:57:20 AM »
Yeah. It's the equation Cypress used to steal 10% of everyone's money right out of their frozen bank accounts!
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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 10:59:34 AM »
Wait- this thread is about 3bar MAP sensors.
That equation was the conversion from bar to mg of He / air fuel ratio * 3.14159

That's the best way to tune the LNF.

If your wondering, the answer is....

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Re: need help with 3bar map
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 05:36:15 PM »
Quote from: Gentleman Jack on March 20, 2013, 10:57:20 AM
Yeah. It's the equation Cypress used to steal 10% of everyone's money right out of their frozen bank accounts!

They voted no :)
So, no 10% off. That was a good lesson for the arrogance of some european countries.
So, are these political 3 bar sensors?

Sorry for the hijack..
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