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Offline SKY888

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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #175 on: October 23, 2013, 05:43:29 AM »
Quote from: elff on October 22, 2013, 09:24:53 PM
Speaking of which
Has anyone every heard of this company?
http://www.fmsrperformance.com/test/index.php?route=product/category&path=20_27

Crazy thing is, they are only 85 miles from me

never heard of them!   but definitely a good find!

I checked their website, and they have tons of their own products for ecotec upgrades...........rods, blocks, rotors...etc

they also do cryo-treatment, if you're interested with that.

you should drive and checked them out...and talked to the owners...and see whats up.




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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #176 on: October 23, 2013, 08:47:44 AM »
Quote from: blackbirdracing on October 21, 2013, 10:51:22 PM
What about Pwerks?

They have an EFR that bolts to the stock manifold.


Quote from: LatinVenom on October 22, 2013, 04:49:53 PM
No they do not.



>:D Yes they do...>:D
bolts to factory manifold, uses stock charge piping and everything. :tool:


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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #177 on: October 23, 2013, 10:25:12 AM »
Quote from: SKY888 on October 23, 2013, 05:43:29 AM
you should drive and checked them out...and talked to the owners...and see whats up.
They are not opened on Weekends which makes it a little inconvenient
but I am going to call and see what they say
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #178 on: October 23, 2013, 02:18:17 PM »
I have a couple of nephews living in that area, I can ask one of them if they know anything about them.
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #179 on: October 23, 2013, 08:00:16 PM »
Just read all 9 pages of this and I just wanted to throw my  :2c: in...

1.  gmtech16450yz has some good points on a lot of things mentioned regarding the EFR.  Out here in Metro Detroit, we have quite a few shops that have iterated more or less the same points he has made. 
2.  For all the research I have done on my own prior to reading the 9 pages of this thread, I was already leaning towards getting the PAW EFR kit and have seen the benefits compared to the GT2871R.  I talked with Spike in NY and he said that he loved his DDM kit, however, he still wanted more after he had it for a bit.  When I talked to him, he didn't have the solstice anymore.  It was long gone and he had his new Challenger with a full exhaust and a supercharger kit on it.  So needless to say he got impatient lol. 
3.  ZZP, which is only 2 hours from my house, is exactly what elff and Sky888 say.  They offer a few good products, but also quite a few bad ones.   The folks who know this company, know what to stay away from. 

Horsepower is addicting for sure.  If it was me buying a kit, the EFR, for me, is a better solution because I may be going up in power after that initial kit and rebuild the motor.  So investing into the new manifold, etc, etc, is what would be best. 
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #180 on: October 23, 2013, 08:11:46 PM »
The performance auto werks WR2 and WR3 are efr turbos.
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #181 on: October 23, 2013, 08:39:49 PM »
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #182 on: October 23, 2013, 08:41:57 PM »
Quote from: kwtoxman on October 23, 2013, 08:39:49 PM
The WR2 and WR3 are not EFR turbos. One can read more info here.
http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,8998.0.html
http://www.gmsportcompact.net/forums/showthread.php/5437-New-Product-WERKSracing-WR-2-LNF-Bolt-On-450hp-Turbocharger!!!


That's old info...

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basically the efrs took place of our wr2 wr3 precision based turbos.... our wr1 is still precision based as customers like it but the bigger ones had a real lack of sales so now the wr2 is a 6258 and wr3 a 6758. everything is a direct bolt on. will come with everything you need to adapt your piping and intake. also we do a kappa based waste gate bracket and drain as well as they are different then the cobalts.
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #183 on: October 24, 2013, 10:24:54 AM »
Quote from: blackbirdracing on October 23, 2013, 08:41:57 PM

That's old info...

Wow, hadn't noticed that.  Looks like it's the same Turbine Housing as the ZZP ZFR?  Maybe Werks should put something in the description that says it's an EFR CHRA and comp housing...
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #184 on: October 24, 2013, 10:41:55 AM »
Weird

What do they mean by "Kappa Chassis" on the second drop down?
The kit is for a Kappa, so why would you need to pay $55 more for a "Kappa Chassis"

The Forge bypass valve is a nice option
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #185 on: October 24, 2013, 10:44:14 AM »
That is weird how its put in there...

But the extra is for the wastegate modification most likely.

Its just odd that you choose kappa, turbos, then have to choose kappa again.


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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #186 on: October 24, 2013, 10:50:20 AM »
Exactly

Their website needs a total overhaul
It's very 1999
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #187 on: October 24, 2013, 11:01:20 AM »
Great news, but totally confusing if it is going to be called the same as the older Precision based turbos. I look forward to reading more on this.


If you guys are reading off the PAW website for the WR2 and WR3, it doesn't look accurate if it is referencing an EFR turbo. The compressor wheel description is not an EFR compressor wheel AFAIK.

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billet aluminum compressor wheel

EFR has a gamma-ti compressor wheel.
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #188 on: October 24, 2013, 11:35:26 AM »
Website needs update,

Dave is a busy man... 


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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #189 on: October 24, 2013, 11:47:44 AM »
Quote from: elff on October 24, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
Weird

What do they mean by "Kappa Chassis" on the second drop down?
The kit is for a Kappa, so why would you need to pay $55 more for a "Kappa Chassis"

The Forge bypass valve is a nice option

Elff,

To hopefully answer your questions -

We have the Kappa option in the drop down areas because the Kappa setup uses a different WG actuator mount as well as includes a silicone outlet adapter for the passenger side IC piping.  The Cobalt and HHR versions do not.  I added the EFR bolt on turbos to one section and just copied them to the other vehicle platforms that it fits instead of making different entries for the different platforms...

Yes, our website is very "1999" as you say but it works, is secure and is easy for me to update which is why we have kept it that way for so long.  We actually had contracted a so called "developer" to create new site, well 2 years and a couple thousand dollars later I had nothing so I still have a bad taste in my mouth from that and am very apprehensive to get in bed with another "developer"

With that said if you know of any site developers that are willing to tackle an upgrade for us, maybe for some car parts let me know, I am very interested in getting in into your 21st century or whatever century this is here... :)
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #190 on: October 24, 2013, 12:14:10 PM »
So that $55 is on top of the base price on that page.
I understand, but can see this confusing a lot of people.
Might be worth editing the Kappa page. 

Kelu does some web stuff
I could do it, if I didn't have already have a full time job.  Same goes for the people I know who also do this stuff. 
Sounds like you could too.  Just need a new storefront and take the time to do a ton of data entry.
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #191 on: October 24, 2013, 04:54:45 PM »
The issue here is the price of the ZZP vs Werks for the same product.
I certainly like to support our vendors but at $2399 plus $55 more, we are now talking $2454.00 vs $1899.00 for the same converted EFR-6758.

We also need Dyno sheets since we have some preliminary numbers of the ZZP in a KAPPA on this thread, although the numbers maybe actually higher.
It seem it behave better on the street vs the Dyno shop tuning session.

As far as the web page I think Kelu would be a good person to start with and if he cannot do it maybe he knows of some good people.

Also Sly Bob's son comes to mind.
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #192 on: October 24, 2013, 05:11:35 PM »
SlyBob's son could probably do it.
He does a lot of the work for this forum.

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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #193 on: October 24, 2013, 06:06:56 PM »
I know a fellow kappa that owns his own business doing business Web site work. But he's really busy lately and working on the 2014 site.
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #194 on: October 24, 2013, 07:49:11 PM »
Dang, I always assumed the those WR series were Precision turbos and they had separately the EFR raw and EFR complete set up. Good thing to know. The price kept me away from looking too hard. That could open the door for the WR3 if its an EFR 6758 direct bolt on for an OEM manifold. For LV, is the WR3 meant for the twin scroll? and No additional BOV needed correct? 

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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #195 on: October 24, 2013, 07:54:40 PM »
The WR series turbos were precision based.

The WR1 still is.

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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #196 on: October 24, 2013, 09:09:18 PM »
Kelu speak up, you are being called
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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #197 on: October 24, 2013, 09:17:21 PM »
I can do websites.  PAW-  I'll trade you a website for your Solstice Coupe :)

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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #198 on: October 24, 2013, 09:20:57 PM »
Except they no longer own the coupe...

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Re: Will a GT3076R turbo work on a GXP
« Reply #199 on: October 25, 2013, 11:32:34 AM »
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