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Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« on: May 17, 2011, 10:08:07 AM »
Just found these 4 guides from Koni for adjusting shocks for drag, autocross, road course and oval.

http://www.koniracing.com/

http://www.koniracing.com/autocrosstune.cfm
http://www.koniracing.com/dragetuningguide.cfm
http://www.koniracing.com/rrtuningguide.cfm
http://www.koniracing.com/ottuningguide.cfm

This would apply to any adjustable shock.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2011, 10:28:15 AM »
good find
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2011, 11:19:35 AM »
Do they have a guide to use for normal street driving?

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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2011, 11:48:08 AM »
I'd guess the road race settings would be the best for street use.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2011, 11:50:38 AM »
Looks to me that road race and autocross ones are similar if not identical.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2011, 11:58:08 AM »
It'd be nice if it had some tips tailored to single-adjustable shocks.

Also, I'd love to find an autocross meet where I could get that many runs in on the same course. Dialing things in 5 runs at a time on different layouts and parkinglots sucks.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2011, 12:03:33 PM »
Yeah this site is dedicated to racing, and Koni racing shocks are double adjustable. The single ajustable ones we have are street shocks. So I'm sure there are guides out there on the net, or on their site for how to adjust them.  It may be similar.

I'm swamped at work, if someone finds something that would be great.  

Oh also, I thought maybe you could use a skidpad (aka spin around in circles in a parking lot) to do the adjustment?
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2011, 12:18:55 PM »
If you have (true) single adjustable shocks, the rebound info will help a lot. The compression information is helpful, but is "fixed" in a (true) S/A. That said, modest increases in spring rate will not be impacted by the built in compression valving. BUT, if the spring rates are substantially increased (i.e. well beyond the GXP/Z0K springs) then compression valving may actually need to be REDUCED. I have (approximately) tripled the FE3 spring rates, and the stock Koni S/A's are managing just fine. For Solo, if one wants to get close to decent rebound settings, start at mid range at both ends, take a few runs to feel them, REDUCE the front firmness 1/2 turn (for Konis) or a few clicks (some other S/As), and sense what you may feel. If that is better, then try a 1/2 turn FIRMER in the rears, and see how that feels. Somewhere in there will be something that you may like. Once you are satisfied, get the tire pressures where you like it, and "learn" the new settings. Once you get close, a 1/4 turn either way will be felt (on Konis). HTH.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 12:26:16 PM »
I was thinking to just go onto a wet skidpad and adjust the shocks until I got the desired amount of understeer/oversteer/neutrality.

I guess that doesn't really help determining the proper amount of damping for the best grip, just the ratio between front and rear. So maybe my thought should be done after what this guide and SOB suggest to do?
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 04:11:22 PM »
I was thinking to just go onto a wet skidpad and adjust the shocks until I got the desired amount of understeer/oversteer/neutrality.

I guess that doesn't really help determining the proper amount of damping for the best grip, just the ratio between front and rear. So maybe my thought should be done after what this guide and SOB suggest to do?

A wet skid pad won't help. One needs to get some load into the suspension, and such low friction conditions won't work.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 04:32:41 PM »
So, traffic circles?
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 04:54:23 PM »
that should work, not sure how you are going to get the right turns in
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2011, 06:48:20 PM »
Pretend your in England?

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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2011, 07:34:49 PM »
Pretend your GJ attempting to get pulled over for the 34th time, then tell the cop you had no idea your were going in circles because you were dizzy and you thought you were going straight.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2011, 08:12:01 PM »
that should work, not sure how you are going to get the right turns in

Sorry Critter, guess you're not doing something right...Hard right into the circle, left through the circle, hard right again to exit. Do that routine every day on my way home from work, don't even have to slow down unless there's a slowpoke in front of me.
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Re: Koni Racing Guides on adjusting your shocks
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2011, 08:17:00 PM »
Umm ...................... NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :gaah: :gaah: ;)

Oh, if it is working well to the left, it will do the same to the right.
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