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Offline pocketcthulhu

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for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« on: December 16, 2010, 04:29:25 PM »
so i am well on my way to paying my car off in the third year of my five year loan, that plus an extra paycheck in December has me starting to seriously consider my mod options.

V8 - well what can i say, i grew up tinkering with old hot rods so stuffing a v8 into my sky just seems like the right thing to do, main draw back is i don't think i can swap the engine myself and i don't have 20k laying around to have someone run a conversion for me.

Turbo - i was looking at the performance autoworks turbo kits and i am fairly interested in them and they seem fairly affordable, but don't know a lot other than i understand the boost doesn't help on the low end.

superchargers - i have been drooling over the s/c's @ ddm for a while now, price wise they are about the same as the turbos.  main thing i see on the ddm sc over turbo listed above is the color options on the sc's piping.

I have a short commute to work (around 15 mins split 50%50 on and off the freeway) under normal day to day use ( ie not goofing around with my sister and her challenger) the sky only sees more than 3500 rpm's on the freeway on ramps.

im not worrying about the dyi part for the turbo or super as If i can get my dad to move his 57 bell air out of the way i will have shop space and tools to use so  :D

so thoughts or advice?
« Last Edit: December 16, 2010, 05:05:47 PM by pocketcthulhu, Reason: I can\'t spell worth a flip.... »

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 05:48:33 PM »
The 2.4 is a great motor and very boost friendly while keeping economical is daily operation.

SC will have a hard time making 300 hp. Turbo on the 2.4 starts getting fun at 300 hp and more.

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 06:59:35 PM »
Turbo is more efficient vs SC and more adequate between no boost (low consumption) and boost (high power).

If you familiar with V8, just get an used cheap LS3, rebuilt it and install it, I'm sure will not be 20k.

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 06:17:31 AM »
Since you don't normally rev the snot out of it, I think you'll be happier with a S/C.  You'll get instant throttle response (no lag).  

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 06:51:14 AM »
pocketcthulhu, why settle with one option?
have you considered putting a V8 in your kappa, and add a SC and a turbo?
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 08:52:18 AM »
I personally plan to go with DDM and the S/C, IMHO.

I know for a fact that a Stage 2 S/C Automatic can beat out a GMPP LNF 5-speed in the quarter mile...
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 10:53:35 AM »
pocketcthulhu, why settle with one option?
have you considered putting a V8 in your kappa, and add a SC and a turbo?
if you can afford it, it will be a daily beast

see i would Love to do that but that would put a dent into my plan of buying a house, i would Love to stuff a v8 into it, but it's just not practical atm unless someone wants to give me the parts.  :poke:

Since you don't normally rev the snot out of it, I think you'll be happier with a S/C.  You'll get instant throttle response (no lag).  

i was considering two factor's with the s/c vs the turbo, first was what you posted and the second was the color options on the pipes from ddm >,>  And anyone in central arkansas care to give me a ride in a supercharged sky and or a turbo 2.4? ... excuse me while i hold my breath and turn purple.  :lol:

Turbo is more efficient vs SC and more adequate between no boost (low consumption) and boost (high power).

If you familiar with V8, just get an used cheap LS3, rebuilt it and install it, I'm sure will not be 20k.

Turbo for low budget and easy mod, V8 for having lots of fun building it and diy.
from what iv seen i Really like the sound of the sound of the turbo and the blow off valve but i don't know if i drive hard enough to enjoy that setup, and as much as i want the v8 that's just going to have to wait untill i land a gf who makes what i do or more, anyone know any cute single doctors or lawyers?  :D
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 12:22:57 PM »
If you want MPG get a turbo, if you don't care, get a V8.
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 01:24:02 PM »
http://www.kappaperformance.com/forum/index.php/topic,5815.msg80864/topicseen.html#new

15% off I'm not sure how i missed that post..

 :drool:  looks like i might be buying myself a early xmas present

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 02:14:46 PM »
I personally plan to go with DDM and the S/C, IMHO.

I know for a fact that a Stage 2 S/C Automatic can beat out a GMPP LNF 5-speed in the quarter mile...

Really?  Not based on times, well, maybe reaction times but not power and trap speed.  See latest times in my signature.  I don't know of any S/C Auto with times that good.

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 02:20:15 PM »
Really?  Not based on times, well, maybe reaction times but not power and trap speed.  See latest times in my signature.  I don't know of any S/C Auto with times that good.

WOW!!! DBG, just a poke... Sorry did not realize a Chief could be so sensitive. Buck up! Guess I shouldn't talk, all I have is a tuned 2.4L. At least I KNOW, I will get it HANDED to me.
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 02:23:46 PM »
Those are great times Boss. Everyone knows what Wester's can do. :thumbs:

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2010, 06:40:31 PM »
WOW!!! DBG, just a poke... Sorry did not realize a Chief could be so sensitive. Buck up! Guess I shouldn't talk, all I have is a tuned 2.4L. At least I KNOW, I will get it HANDED to me.
You know we do have a poke icon and if you used that, hmmm.  Oh and I thought you meant me, sorry.  You referenced a GMPP LNF.   I don't have the GMPP :poke:

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 06:39:23 PM »
Time counts from the time the light turns green :)  not who is quicker between the lines.

Anyway to answer your question - my view is slated, but I love the whine of an SC
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2010, 11:20:42 AM »
 I 'd love to be" Blown " :D  :yay:,  but the Turbo does a GR8 job and a Good tune makes it only better.  :thumbs:
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 12:14:58 PM »
Well, being an SC guy I guess I have to put my  :2c: in...
If money weren't an issue I'd have to say V8. You could sell the 2.4 & recoup some of the cost.

So on to the more practical choices.... $$$ wise that is. I'm not going to argue which is better... SC or turbo BUT for around town the SC is an INSTANT KICK IN THE PANTS & gets the job done very well when you need to deal with today's impatient fast moving traffic. Then there is the SC sound... it certainly will turn heads  :drag:
The SC works for me, after having put over 12,000 miles on it since install I would still choose the SC over a turbo setup today.

If you want something a little more unique with a little more character and lots of low end torque go for the SC.  :devil:
If you want something a little more refined and what everyone else has  :yawn: go for the turbo.

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 02:52:33 PM »
Jimmy - Do you keep track of your gas mileage?   :idk:
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2010, 03:01:27 PM »
Well, being an SC guy I guess I have to put my  :2c: in...
If money weren't an issue I'd have to say V8. You could sell the 2.4 & recoup some of the cost.

So on to the more practical choices.... $$$ wise that is. I'm not going to argue which is better... SC or turbo BUT for around town the SC is an INSTANT KICK IN THE PANTS & gets the job done very well when you need to deal with today's impatient fast moving traffic. Then there is the SC sound... it certainly will turn heads  :drag:
The SC works for me, after having put over 12,000 miles on it since install I would still choose the SC over a turbo setup today.

If you want something a little more unique with a little more character and lots of low end torque go for the SC.  :devil:
If you want something a little more refined and what everyone else has  :yawn: go for the turbo.

Holy Hell Jimmy,

You've already put 12K miles on your super charger?  And it was in the shop for two months?  What do you do drive to california and back every weekend? 

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2010, 05:31:26 PM »
I keep track of mine.

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2010, 01:07:12 PM »
Thanks, Critter!   :yay:
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2010, 02:48:45 PM »
Can you guys agree on which is less maintenance, TC or SC?  I thought I had heard that the turbo kits for the 2.4 were pretty tempermental.
I am going to be pulling the trigger on some sort of forced induction and kinda had my mind made up on the DDM S/C II, but the sale at Autowerks has me teetering.
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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2010, 04:08:17 PM »
Yogi

There is on stat I didn't tell you, I'm going to wisper


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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2010, 04:12:28 PM »
Supercharger rebuild kit should costs no more that $60-80 with everything you need. Turbo rebuild kit for a mitsubushi turbo like mine is about the same. The turbos you may be referring to see the stock turbo troubles some have encountered.

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2010, 06:40:14 PM »
Can you guys agree on which is less maintenance, TC or SC?  I thought I had heard that the turbo kits for the 2.4 were pretty tempermental.
I am going to be pulling the trigger on some sort of forced induction and kinda had my mind made up on the DDM S/C II, but the sale at Autowerks has me teetering.
You can say that again, but is it bad that im considering the s/c over the turbo just because of the color options on the ddm s/c pipes?  :D

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Re: for a daliy driver super charger or turbo or v8?
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2010, 06:52:55 PM »
It's never bad to get what YOU want. Thats what makes it fun!
Go for the SC, you won't be dissapointed. I don't think there is anyone with SC's in the kappa community that wishes they would have gotten a turbo instead & I have not heard of any major issues either from them. If I'm wrong I stand to be corrected.
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Yogi, I havn't checked it manually with a calculator, the DIC says my running average arround town is 23MPG & when I was commuting it was averaging 29MPG which is up 4MPG from stock. I can tell you I fill up no more often than I used to.
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